Advice from Acan keepers needed

novahobbies

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OK, I give up. I am apparently not allowed to keep Acans, and frankly it's ticking me off. I could use some advice, so I'm hoping someone chimes in.

Let me tell you how I've tried to keep them, and what happens EVERY SINGLE TIME.

First, I lose these beautiful corals slowly. Over a period of months. It's like slow tissue necrosis; the colony starts receding from the skeleton from the edges until I'm left with a couple polyps surrounded by a grisly field of bone-white CaCO3 skeleton. Eventually these die off as well. It's a song that I have played and replayed three times in the past, and I'd really like to find a new tune.

I have tried these with small colonies, not individual polyp frags. 8-12 head mini-colonies. The first one I had was in the seahorse tank, under a 150w MH, about 12-14 inches under the water surface, in 76 degree water. It died back. The second one was kept a little lower on the sand bed (I had read that Acans are "very adaptable, but don't need a lot of light") so this one was roughly 22 inches underwater, again in 74-76 degree water. Same old tune, slow necrosis from the outer polyps in.

I did feed these guys a small amount.

When I set up the 110g, I thought I'd give it another shot. I put this colony near the bottom of the tank, under LED lights. I know I have some decent PAR because my lights tend to bleach out a lot of sensitive corals (There are favites that I have to keep shaded under rocks on the bottom of the tank for example). I hoped that this tank, with its cleaner water and no nitrate, might make the difference, but alas......the colony is receding yet again. At first I thought it was only receding a little near the front, but today I realized that the back end of the colony near the rock is almost completely gone. All the same as the last two times.

So, yeah, I'm very frustrated. I'd love to hear some accomplished Acan keepers chime in...where your corals are kept, your lighting, how and when you feed, etc. I really love these guys, but I am not sure if I should try for Acan number 4. Or (hope against hope!!) if there is some way of resurrecting the current Acan that's almost gone. Should I frag off the dead skeleton or leave it??
 
Acans tend to be easy. As they generally do not need much light and tend to color up best under lower light. They do not need very clean water for the most part. what are your alk, ca and mg? Any fish possibly picking on it? they are about the most tasty corals for many borderline fish
 
Acans tend to be easy. As they generally do not need much light and tend to color up best under lower light. They do not need very clean water for the most part. what are your alk, ca and mg? Any fish possibly picking on it? they are about the most tasty corals for many borderline fish

It's statements like this that make me want to bang my head. "Easy" coral for everyone....but me, apparently! :lol:

OK, my Alk is 9 to 10 right now, my Ca is 400, and my Mag...I haven't tested in a couple weeks, so unsure. No fish that I have seen pick on it, and of course in the seahorse tank there wasn't anything that COULD pick on it.

The horse tank tended to have 20-40ppm nitrates, and phosphate was obviously available for the macroalgae. My current tank has a small phosphate reading, and NO nitrate. If any current fish would pick on this, I'd say it was the potter's angel....but I've never seen him do it. He used to pick on a chalice until I moved the coral.
 
I would say the angel woudl have picked on them. Any Angel i had waited til lights out to pick on my corals. also Nitrates that high could harm any corals
 
Keep them on the sand bed. Make sure no one is nipping at them. I've always been told magnesium is important to successful acans.

The other thing when buying a colony of acans. Be careful as they sometimes have boring worms that live in the skeleton.
 
If you know your leds have high par. Try to shade the Acans a little. Also try to feed them a couple times a week. I use new life spectrum pellets. Mainly because I can target feed them with clear rigid tubing. If you remind me, one day I can come over and check your par. If your acans are turning all red, its generally a sign its getting too much light.
 
I was experiencing the same until I found that my peppermint shrimp were chomping on them after lights out. I removed the peppermint shrimp and now tissue is healing.
 
Acans don't do well in my tank either. It's about the only coral that doesn't do well in my tank. They slowly melt away. I am done with them.
 
Thanks to everyone who is chiming in! Let me try to answer some responses:

I would say the angel woudl have picked on them. Any Angel i had waited til lights out to pick on my corals. also Nitrates that high could harm any corals
I agree it's possible the Angel might be picking on it, BUT...the tissue recession is pretty even around the entire perimeter of the coral. I've seen bite marks the angel left behind on my Chalice, and those are random spots, not even tissue recession. Tho' I do agree that the nitrates from the horse tank might have had something to do with the problem in that tank, it just seems odd that it would be dying back in the exact same manner in this tank. Very weird.

How often do you feed them, and what do you feed them?
Probably once a week with my standard coral blend, which is a combination of Oyster Feast, Frozen Zoo 2.0, and a powdered freeze-dried zoaplankton food. I give it a small directed blast.

Keep them on the sand bed. Make sure no one is nipping at them. I've always been told magnesium is important to successful acans.

The other thing when buying a colony of acans. Be careful as they sometimes have boring worms that live in the skeleton.
I'll test my Mag asap, but it should be pretty high...I am coming down from a Mag treatment for bryopsis in fact. To be honest I was wondering if the high Mag was what caused this!
Never heard about the worms...interesting! And a little gross....

If you know your leds have high par. Try to shade the Acans a little. Also try to feed them a couple times a week. I use new life spectrum pellets. Mainly because I can target feed them with clear rigid tubing. If you remind me, one day I can come over and check your par. If your acans are turning all red, its generally a sign its getting too much light.

I've never considered using pellets as a coral food for this! I'll give that a shot. Also, I will see if I can move this. It's darn near almost to the sand bed now, but I can move it to a shaded area as suggested.

Stand by for some pics I took tonight. Oh and Marvin, you are ALWAYS welcome to come over, with or without your PAR meter! Of course I'd love to see what my actual readings are, so....yeah!
 
Here are a couple pictures.


This shot is blurry, but you can see the back of the colony pretty well.



On an unrelated note, this is my $30 Acro that I got from Barrier. It's doing pretty well; it had a few spots stung by a tube anemone, but I've since moved it and the tissue is healing nicely.
 
caught a red leg hermit doing similar damage to one of mine. It was the edges because thats what he could reach. exiled the hermit and moved it to a ledge and its recovering
 
corals are weird. People say birdsnest is easy but I can't grow it. I say acans are easy but they don't work for you. I have however have been seeing some luck keeping one recent birdsnest coral. It started to go downhill as usual and thats when I became extremely diligent regarding Alk. Now I test Daily to make sure its above 8. when i test it usually isn't. Since this regimen the tissue has stopped receding and it has encrusted a bit. My whole tank seems to be doing better actually. Try to being SUPER diligent with alk for a while and see where that gets you. good luck
 
Up the feeding, both in frequency and size of what's being fed. Acans have big mouths, they will eat a big chunk of silverside with ease ;) Normally I would feed 2 to 3 times per week. For something I'm looking to be fragging regularly or one in recovery, I'd up that to every other day. The pellets are good, I'd also throw in some silversides and shrimp that are cut into 1/2" to 1" pieces.
 
Thanks all. I am going to try moving it and feeding it pellets every other day for a while. Do you think I should try removing the dead skeleton as well?
 
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