Advice needed....

AzGuido

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Need some advice....my wife told me to stop piecing my tank system together and just go buy the bigger tank now and get what you need. So I am in the market for a new tank. It will be a mixed reef.
I am thinking of something 72x 30x30 with 2 center of tank filter boxes. My questions....

Glass or acrylic?
Filter box: back wall center, back wall ends, center of tank?
Filter: Berlin system, Wet/dry, Refugium or blend of ?
 
glass... I've had both. I wont go to acrylic ever again.

either large center, or medium corner overflows.

sump/refuge, go as big as your stand allows. width wise. to maximum the size of the fuge.
 
That is awesome!!

I say glass for the tank sump could be either.
As for your overflow its whatever you think looks best .... think of what can be seen and what you can hide with rock
 
I second both comments... Although my wife basically did the same thing last year...

Glass is a lot heavier, but makes maintenance easier I think, sump doesn't matter, but just go as big as you can and still be able to have room to maintain it. Just realize as you bigger, costs go up. Make sure you have ability to produce RO/Salt water in large enough amounts regularly...

Ask questions here on a regular basis!
 
Yes...wife is tired of me trying to jerry rig the Petsmart tank and stand. The tank is great and I am sure I could have drilled it but the stand sucks and limits the size on my sump (15 gallon and that's it) so the HOB skimmer makes too much noise and is "ugly" so rather the n custom making a stand larger for the tank and a canopy so the lights can be "hidden" she said just run the numbers of what you want and do it. Sweet. I'm sure the final number will end up costing me twice as much as I will have to buy her a nice "thank you gift" (think jewlery! Yikes!!)
 
I have heard mixed reviews on the refuge which leads to my confusion. The science tells me for a 200+gal tank the refuge needs to be at least 150+gallons for it to be effective? Is that correct?
 
Very nice of your wife. I would double check to see what she wants out of the deal. My wife told me the same thing. I did the math and it would have cost me too much on Coach purses.
Congrats and I'm sure you'll have no trouble finding local reefers to help you spend your money. JP
 
I run a 55 gallon sump on a 155 gallon tank, and it seems sufficient, although I also run a carbon and GFO reactor. Keep in mind, I am no where near as in depth as many of the folks on here, and have no where near the incredible setups. I think with refugiums, it is a case of go as big as you can. While having a remote sump with a refugium giant 300 gallon stock pond is a wonderful idea, not as many people have them as would love to have them.
 
...I'm sure you'll have no trouble finding local reefers to help you spend your money. JP

Porter knows I'll help.

Check out the Deep Sea Aquatics 225, might be in your wheelhouse. Plenty of other quality tank manufacturers out there to choose from, including local builders.

If the tank is going to be backed up into a corner on the wall, a corner-overflow box will look the best in the tank but be more difficult to work on. A single overflow box in the center would give more access, but less visually appealing (in my opinion). Access vs. aesthetics. If you're keeping the front-to-back dimensions under 30", I'd go with a corner overflow.

Go with starphire glass if the budget allows. More scratch resistant than acrylic with the same (or at least, similar) optics. Acrylic is awesome if you have a unique design or starphire glass is way out of your budget. Having had both acrylic and low-iron glass, I'd pay up to a 50% premium for the low-iron glass. Everyone values these things differently though.

Skip the Berlin and Wet-dry. Having run multiple refugiums, I'd say run one only if you're a bit nocturnal and like to watch little critters run around at night when the rest of your tank is asleep. If you're running it only for nutrient export or pH balance, skip it and go with a better skimmer and more water changes for nutrient export and use a CO2 scrubber for pH. They're easier to maintain and less risk of Nitrates/Phoshates leaching back into the system. If you have room in the sump for a fuge and want to grow macro algae, use the chamber to tumble chaeto without sand or rock. That gives you plenty of access to vacuum out detritus if it forms and you don't have to move rock all over the place or worry about sand getting gunked up.

More than one way to be successful in this hobby. Go check out some local tanks and see what you like. Most importantly, think about what would go into maintaining the aspects of your design. The less you have to worry about maintenance, the more time you get to spend staring at or buying corals and fish.

:beer:
 
My next tank will have a coast to coast style of overflow, where the box is on the outside of the tank and this maximizes the room inside the tank. IMO looks a lot better

I prefer acrylic for a tank due to the clarity and strength of tank. When the tanks get larger won't have a panel blow out like glass can. You just have to be careful when cleaning the sides of a grain of sand gets caught you will get a scratch.
 
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