AEFW new info and photos

[Sparkss]

Dolt,

the FWE treatments have been tried by multiple people (at least 3 that I know of, most likely even more) and all are very well documented in BigReds AEFW thread. If you haven't already, read up on what dosages seems to work on which AEFWs . Other than that keep up the great experimenting , our battle continues here as well. We have some ornate wrasses on order and even have some of the larger AEFWs in a container that I plan to add one of the wrasses to so that we can observe first hand if they help any at all. We will post the results once we have any to post

 

[dolt]

tom- that is where I got the idea of trying that - what I am hoping to find is a relatively safe and effective in tank treatment - I wanted to try the FWE in a bowl first as the AEFW that I have seem to be different from what others have been battling (but I bet there are a lot of people out there with the type I have who do not know it - they are extremely hard to find and after all, I had to get it from somewhere) - I wanted to come up with an effective dose in a bowl to then apply to the tank - unfortunately, the only dose that seemed to possibly be effective was the 10x, which reading others' experience, is likely to cause a great deal of stress to my whole tank
I ordered some of the prazi pro last night and should be here in a few days - that also shows promise of being safer in tank, but it's effectiveness for others seems to be low - however, I will test it in a bowl first and go from there

 

[SERVO]

Happy Birthday:beer: :clown: :celeb1: :celeb3:

 

[dolt]

thanks dude!
the good old 6/6/6!

 

[impur]

My redbugs came back after 1 treatment as well, i know the feeling.

I removed 2 acros that were infected last night and put them into about 6 cups of water. I added 6 drops of lugols. Didn't really do much to them. I then added 4 drops FWE and they really started to bug out, squirming in the water, etc. I left it overnight and could not find an alive one this morning. I have the small ones as well, so they are very difficult to see. Obviously this is not an in tank treatment, but it gave me some hope. I sure hope the TMPCC is effective against these ones.

 

[Sparkss]

TMPCC has worked fine for us as a dip, but obviously no in tank and also not effective against eggs. You almost have to break all new coral colonies off their bases (even after dipping) before adding them to your tank, just to be safe. The eggs are very hard to see, and so easy to reinfest with.

 

[impur]

Good! I only have a handful of infected corals, the dip should work well for me......I hope

I believe i have the same ones as dolt, the real small thin ones. I have yet to find any eggs even using a magnifying glass.

 

[dolt]

impur - do you have the really super tiny ones like I have? you are the first one if so that I know of that has those - I guess it makes me feel a little better to know I am not the only one (sorry - misery loves company) - also makes it easier to share info and experiences with someone with the same problem rather than similar problems - as far as fwe is concerned I used 1 or 2 drops in four gallons last night (5x and 10x reccomended doses) but only left in for 30-60 minutes - the 10x worked well over that time but 5x did not - the latter though is likely more useful for in tank use so maybe longer times are needed (one of the threads talked about using up to 4-5x with moderate collateral problems)

Sparkss - one concern for me is that the type of flatworms are so small I am not sure if they even are egg laying - so if and when I do find a treatment I will probably do a once a week sort of thing for four weeks or so as I will never be able to find and remove eggs (if they exist even)

 

[impur]

Yes they are really really small. About half the size of a normal clear or red FW. I checked and checked and have not see any eggs either.

 

[Aquaduck]

I have them as well. No eggs to be found. These things are so small they look like specks of brown algae but they move. Hopefully you'll get some positive results from these medications.

 

[Sparkss]

Well, we ordered some ornate wrasses (the Christmas wrasses that everyone states have an appetite for the AEFWs). They should be arriving today. I will post their arrival status and any results with testing them in a container with some captured live AEFWs (although i doubt they would eat them like that, being stressed still from the shipping, etc).

 

[gflat65]

I had heard of yellow coris and leopard wrasses with appetites for AEFW's. I just got a splendid leopard wrasse (M. bipartitus). I haven't seen any signs of AEFW's since the Levamisole treatments, but will keep an eye out... All accounts I've heard on the Christmas wrasses have been good in terms of crustacean molestation.

 

[Sparkss]

They are also a gorgeous fish, to boot. Hopefully they will live up to their rep of eating the AEFWs. Most others in the genus are good at pest control, but so far the only ones reported to actually nip the AEFWs off of the corals was the Christmas/Ornate wrasse (the others all would grab them from the water column if/when the AEFWs were blasted off the corals). Radiant wrasses are supposed to be great for pest control also.

 

[gflat65]

They had a Radiant wrasse at a LFS when I bought the splendid. I wonder if the LFS's are paying attention to the trends, or if they just got in some cool fish...

 

[Sparkss]

most likely just getting in some cool fish. Most of the LFS I have dealt with were totally ignorant of the "trends" (unless it would make them more money, like the Acan craze last year). Some knew about "online" but never ventured, the others that did venture didn't seem to know the "right" places to go (or they didn't have the time to "learn" anything useful).

But that is just my cynical opinion based on certain first hand experiences.

 

[dolt]

I got the prazi pro today and will be experimenting with it in a bowl on the flat worms at different doses and comparing with ivermectin and FWE at the same time and will post results as soon as I can - wish me luck - I hope the prazi pro works as I heard that at least at regular doses it does not seem to have adverse effects on the other tank inhabitants (but who knows, at higher doses this might be a problem)
- at this point things are getting pretty bad - for some reason the FW seem to really have taken off and are now on many more colonies and eating them fast - I'm surprised something so little can do so much damage

 

[dolt]

I just spoke with someone at hikari who sells prazipro in the us - he stated that they will not guarantee that it is reef safe for sure but they tested it on reef inhabitants including snails, corals etc and stated that none showed any ill effects - he states that the med was intended for use on flat fish worm parasites and is not sure if it will work on AEFW (he was not aware what these even were) but does say that he does not think that it works on traditional planaria at recommended doses at least - he also stated that a bunch of the employees and others had used it in reef tanks with no ill effects at recommended doses

 

[SERVO]

Updates?

 

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7521717#post7521717 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sparkss
Well, we ordered some ornate wrasses (the Christmas wrasses that everyone states have an appetite for the AEFWs). They should be arriving today. I will post their arrival status and any results with testing them in a container with some captured live AEFWs (although i doubt they would eat them like that, being stressed still from the shipping, etc).

I doubt they'll eat in the cup right off the bat Tom.

Where did you order them from? Shouldn't be to hard to find locally. I know a bunch landed yesterday from Tonga.

 

[Sparkss]

I tried for several weeks to find them locally, out of almost 8 weeks worth of trying (calling just about every LFS on their shipment days) I found 1, that I had to special order, on about hte 3rd week. They got in 2, I went down and only 1 was the right fish (and not all LFS go by the Latin name for ordering/selling fish). So it is hit and miss when dealing with LFS for ordering certain fishes, these being one of them. We ordered directly from Hawaii, and they landed yesterday (for us anyways ).