Affected by the black out? Look here! Claim form for PG&E and discussion here!

[dannieboiz]

Ok, I found a claims form for PG&E

If you're affected by this blackout, lets work together and make PG&E responsible. I have not had a chance to read over all the policies, nor the available info on the net, but legally PG&E is responsible for ANY lost including your spoiled foods, hotels and what not.

If we have enough people, a threat of a class action lawsuit can be file.

In the last 48 hours, I had power for about 10 combine hours only.

best thing to do is take picture of the dead live stocks, go online to find listed price and use that as your arguement.

Not sure how far is this going to go but worth a try. Can't vent on anyone else but PG&E.

 

[Elite]

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGES?
Generally speaking, Pacific Gas and Electric Company is responsible for damages that result from its negligence. If any person, business or property is
damaged because we do something unreasonable, or because we unreasonably fail to do something that should have been done, then we have an obligation
to pay for reasonable damages. We are not responsible for damages that we do not cause or that are the result of forces beyond our control. For example, in
most instances we are not responsible for power outages or voltage fluctuations caused by earthquakes, weather-related conditions (such as lightning, floods, or extreme storms, heat or winds) or other acts of nature. In these extreme cases, if you incurred a loss because you received and reasonably relied on incorrect
information from us related to service restoration, and that information was incorrect because we did not exercise reasonable diligence, we will pay your
reasonable damages. We are not responsible for losses associated with curtailments or outages initiated at the direction of any electric grid operator or due to a
failure of gas supplies not caused by us. There may be situations in which Pacific Gas and Electric Company is only partially responsible for a loss. In those
cases, we offer to pay our fair share.

I think they got their butt covered man...

 

[GreshamH]

We are not responsible for damages that we do not cause or that are the result of forces beyond our control. For example, in
most instances we are not responsible for power outages or voltage fluctuations caused by earthquakes, weather-related conditions (such as lightning, floods, or
extreme storms, heat or winds) or other acts of nature. In these extreme cases, if you incurred a loss because you received and reasonably relied on incorrect
information from us related to service restoration, and that information was incorrect because we did not exercise reasonable diligence, we will pay your
reasonable damages. We are not responsible for losses associated with curtailments or outages initiated at the direction of any electric grid operator or due to a
failure of gas supplies not caused by us.

Good luck.

 

[Elite]

You are too late gresham :lol:

 

[GreshamH]

By milliseconds, check the time posted

 

[dannieboiz]

According to some people I talked to, it seems that PG&E planned this and has been cutting power of different section @ a time. HEAT MY ARSE!

 

[GreshamH]

They planned the massive heat wave that sucked up major amounts of juice?

Different sections at a time, like "rolling black outs"? Not unusual when dealing with more demand then juice

 

[Apon]

FYI - PG& E did pay my claim 2 years ago...but the fire at the power station was their fault. I am not sure this one would be covered.

 

[GreshamH]

Man, I'm reliving yesterday :lol: Friggin ground hog day.

 

[sfsuphysics]

Now I know this might be legal mumbo jumbo, but according to that it says power outages or fluctuations caused by the heat. The heat didn't cause it, a million or so people cranking their A/C on full blast did

Also the issue with Fremont was a house fire which took out a transformer, this is not weather or "nature" related. I for the love of me don't know how a house fire took out a transformer but if that is the case and you're in that area could be an issue of poor planning by PG&E.

Eitherway if you have the time why not file, worst they can say is no. Enough complaining and you might actually get a little something to have them shut you up

 

[dannieboiz]

Yah it doesn't hurt to file, worst case is that they'll say no. I'm not counting on them settling anyways. I just have to do this to vent my anger. When it's time to pay up, someone is always pointing fingers. There's no excuse to cut our power for almost 2 days straight.

 

[sfsuphysics]

yeah a two day outage isn't a rolling blackout due to heat issues.

 

[Al G Blenny]

I got home at 3:00 yesterday and the power was out. It didn't come back on until about 4:30. Then it went out at about 6:00 for another hour or so. Then at about 8:00 for another hour or so. Then again at about 10:00. That just doesn't make sense. Why is San Jose so bad? I know lots of people in different areas of the Peninsula that didn't have any power outages. Why did mine go out four time yesterday that I know of. Plus for the last 4 day everytime I get home my clocks are reset. The power has obviously been out every day. I wonder what will happen today? I have lost a couple of Acros since this started. Personally I think they could probably pull power from other places to cover the lack of it in San Jo. Can someone tell me why it is so bad in my area?

 

[Al G Blenny]

Re: Affected by the black out? Look here! Claim form for PG&E and discussion here!

Re: Affected by the black out? Look here! Claim form for PG&E and discussion here!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7809748#post7809748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dannieboiz
Ok, I found a claims form for PG&E

If you're affected by this blackout, lets work together and make PG&E responsible. I have not had a chance to read over all the policies, nor the available info on the net, but legally PG&E is responsible for ANY lost including your spoiled foods, hotels and what not.

If we have enough people, a threat of a class action lawsuit can be file.

In the last 48 hours, I had power for about 10 combine hours only.

best thing to do is take picture of the dead live stocks, go online to find listed price and use that as your arguement.

Not sure how far is this going to go but worth a try. Can't vent on anyone else but PG&E.

Thank you for posting this. I for one will try.

 

[orientalexpress]

peoples in arizona had no problem or Vegas.this heat is nothing compare to them.They're can't blame on the heat on this one.48 hours without power,that a lame excused.


LAPSAN

 

[Thales]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7810103#post7810103 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dannieboiz
Yah it doesn't hurt to file, worst case is that they'll say no. I'm not counting on them settling anyways. I just have to do this to vent my anger. When it's time to pay up, someone is always pointing fingers. There's no excuse to cut our power for almost 2 days straight.

Did they really cut your power, or was it that equipment broke down during the largest electrical demand day in California's history?

BTW, I am very sorry for everyones losses. I felt terrible when it happened to me.

 

[Reefcherie]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7810646#post7810646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Al G Blenny
I got home at 3:00 yesterday and the power was out. It didn't come back on until about 4:30. Then it went out at about 6:00 for another hour or so. Then at about 8:00 for another hour or so. Then again at about 10:00. That just doesn't make sense. Why is San Jose so bad? I know lots of people in different areas of the Peninsula that didn't have any power outages. Why did mine go out four time yesterday that I know of. Plus for the last 4 day everytime I get home my clocks are reset. The power has obviously been out every day. I wonder what will happen today? I have lost a couple of Acros since this started. Personally I think they could probably pull power from other places to cover the lack of it in San Jo. Can someone tell me why it is so bad in my area?

I heard on the radio earlier today that PG&E has had 380 transformers burn out in the San Jose and east bay area - due to the fact that they didn't use the type of transformers needed for high heat - not the type used in Las Vegas and those sorts of places.

 

[dswong01]

HMMM sounds like an equipment promblem on PG and E part .
A system design issue which makes them responsible. No having the proper equipment to deal with environment/weather.

 

[sfsuphysics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7811107#post7811107 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Thales
Did they really cut your power, or was it that equipment broke down during the largest electrical demand day in California's history?

Was it? I don't even recall them even mentioning getting to a stage 1 alert.

But 380 transformers?? YIKES! They're supposed to replace one near me on Monday, wonder if they'll even have any!

 

[Thales]

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/15112241.htm

I think Sunday was stage 1 as well.

Oh -
From
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/15113345.htm

The worst of the heat this week has been in the West, where California air conditioners drove electricity use to 50,270 megawatts on Monday - a state record. Cutbacks by government agencies and businesses helped avoid rolling blackouts, but energy officials expected more strain on the system Tuesday.

"We still have our guard up," said Stephanie McCorkle, spokeswoman for the California Independent System Operator, which manages the state's power grid.

ISO officials warned that they were likely to issue another "stage 1" emergency, calling upon consumers to conserve electricity. An elevated "stage 2" emergency, where businesses voluntarily reduce power use in exchange for lower rates, was also possible, said Gregg Fishman, an ISO spokesman.