psilentchild
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Will these two get along in my 430?Also will they get along with my bicolor,coral beauty and flame angel?
African flameback and cherub angel
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reppo13
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Thats a lot of dwarfs even for that size tank. I would say take caution for the flameback and cherub being compatable. I've seen it happen before, but its a rare sight. One option would be separating your tank in two with an egg crate, in one half add both the flameback and cherub at the same time. On the other half would be your three angels. This will allow the flameback and cherub to explore and utilize the rock pile and get used to eachother and they will get used to seeing eachother and the three angels. Hope this helps.
psilentchild
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Is it that it too many drawf or is it the flameback and cherub angel?
jd474
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+1. Seen them fight in much bigger tanks before.
psilentchild
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So if I was to drop one and add a eibli angel which on would it be?
I think you could keep the two in a 430. I would do one of either things:
1-try and pair the two. I don't see any reason why you couldn't pair up the two fish being they are so closely related.
2-keep a harem of either species. I think you could easily keep 5 to 6 of the same species. It may be hard to get that many small enough but I am sure if you talk to your dealer he could arrange it.
1-try and pair the two. I don't see any reason why you couldn't pair up the two fish being they are so closely related.
2-keep a harem of either species. I think you could easily keep 5 to 6 of the same species. It may be hard to get that many small enough but I am sure if you talk to your dealer he could arrange it.
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psilentchild
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How could I tell if I have a pair ? I will be ordering from LA
ocellaris123
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I had a spawning pair of the very mix you are proposing. The male was a flameback and the female was the cherubfish, and they were in a 60 gallon reef. I think you will be fine, even with the other three centropyge species in the tank.
psilentchild
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But who to say when I order from liveaquaria they are going to give me one male and one female.
velvetelvis
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From what I understand, they're very difficult to sex. You might want to ask about that on the breeding forum and see if anybody has any advice.
psilentchild
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Even if I ask on the breeding forum I still can't control what liveaquaria sends me.I'm going to call and see what they say.
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Sexing the smaller pygmies isn't that difficult. It greatly simplifies things because they are all female initially and depending on the circumstances will turn to a male as they mature.
being in groups or pairs with a dominant male will suppress this. The mature males are longer and have brighter colors then the immature females which are rounder. The safest bet is to buy the smallest specimens you can find and let them mature. They will sort out the sex change on their own.
being in groups or pairs with a dominant male will suppress this. The mature males are longer and have brighter colors then the immature females which are rounder. The safest bet is to buy the smallest specimens you can find and let them mature. They will sort out the sex change on their own.
psilentchild
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I called them and they suppose to have some one call me back.
psilentchild
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This is what I was told mour best bet is probably to order 2 different sizes so that even if I do get 2 of the same sex the less dominant one will change sex. They are not sure if they would be able to guarantee me 2 of the same size different sex.
If it is any help it is much easier to find tiny cherub angels than african flamebacks. This will give you a female cherub angel and a male flameback. If you have a spare tank or quarantine tank you might set up a transparent divider and pair them up in the smaller tank as it will be easier to get them out if things don't work out. get a female first so she can get adjusted to the tank over a couple of days then introduce the male flameback and watch them in the smaller tank. remove the divider after a few days and see how things work out. I think having the cherub angel stay female may help you in the long run as IME the african flameback are more peaceful.
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If you did this and raised up some fry, I'd be first in line for one.
I don't think anyone has ever raised hybrids of these species before. I think hybrids of the Caribbean fireball angel and Cherub angel are known but are far from common. At best I have only seen photos of suspected hybrids. I bet COPPS would know.
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