Algae problems

BeachBum843

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Hey guys. I have a relatively new reef tank set up with 45 lbs. of Fiji premium rock, and i'm experiencing a tenacious brown algae bloom.

It's a 30 gallon tank with 300 watts of 14,000k MH light and an Aqua-C remora skimmer with a MJ 1200 powerhead. Parameters are: ammonia undetectable, nitrite undetectable, nitrate less than 10 ppm, phosphate undetectable, temperature 78-80 deg., pH 8.2, Calcium 420 ppm, alkalinity 10 dKH. Circulation is from a Vortech pump. I'm also employing purigen in the outflow cup of the skimmer and Caulerpa prolifera for natural nitrate reduction, which I pinch back weekly.

Originally, I thought it was diatom algae as it sprang up in small patches and was dusty/powdery an easily removed with a mag float off of the sides of the tank. I added a few snails (nerites, nassisarius, astrea, margarita, etc.) to keep it in check and they've only done a marginal job so far.

Then, the algae started encrusting every square inch of liverock in an algae matt. When a snail does manage to eat through it, you can visibly see the edges of the matt waving in the breeze. It's coated the glass and the substrate as well.

I use deionized filtered water which should strip out all of the phosphates and the silicates from my source water, and with the way it's spreading I don't think that it's true diatom algae. It's possible I have a little diatom algae combined with this stuff.

Knowing that new tanks often go through these microalgae cycles before they stabilize, my treatment regimen has been to cut back the lights to six hours on a light timer and add more snails. Only the astreas seem to be going at this algae with any gusto.

The liverock has subsequently bleached/faded out underneath the matt, as cleaned areas by the snails are now bleach white. I'm worried that the algae has perminantly killed off the pink/purple calcarious algae perminantly.

Aside from daily scrubbing off the rock with a toothbrush (only to have it grow back), employing a small army of snails (probably my next step) and/or tossing out the rock and starting again from scratch, i'm at a loss on what to do.

Any other tips or tricks that would help me get rid of the brown stuff in favor of the pink/purple/blue stuff would be greatly appreciated.
 
How long has the tank been set up? The algae is getting its nutrients from somewhere, quite possibly from die off within the rock itself, nothing simple you can do here but wait it out. Keep the algae siphoned out to help remove the nutrients as the algae binds them. You could try to remove the rock and give it a good scrubbing and rinse, but this could also result in further die off.

I use deionized filtered water

Are you filtering the water through an RO filter as well or just DI?

The liverock has subsequently bleached/faded out underneath the matt, as cleaned areas by the snails are now bleach white. I'm worried that the algae has perminantly killed off the pink/purple calcarious algae perminantly.

Dont worry the coraline will come back.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9584329#post9584329 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by graveyardworm
How long has the tank been set up? The algae is getting its nutrients from somewhere, quite possibly from die off within the rock itself, nothing simple you can do here but wait it out. Keep the algae siphoned out to help remove the nutrients as the algae binds them. You could try to remove the rock and give it a good scrubbing and rinse, but this could also result in further die off.

Are you filtering the water through an RO filter as well or just DI?

Dont worry the coraline will come back.

It's a relatively new setup, and I agree I think I should wait and just let the algae run it's course. I've already scrubbed off the rock and algae once with a toothbrush and used the micron sleeve in a magnum HOT canister filter to pull out the mulm and algae a few times.

It simply grows back. Adjusting the light period and adding even more snails to the tank has really helped slow it's progression of late.

The water filter is a Kent Marine Deion 200-R, which has a micron filter+carbon block in the first chamber, a cation resin post in the second chamber and an anion resin post in the third chamber. I have a lab grade TDS meter and after calibration, the product water on the kent unit has literally no reading. I use a little osmo prep marine and Red Sea synthetic sea mix in the makeup water.

It's purer water than my bare bones RO unit makes and doesn't produce any wastewater at all. It can make up to 200 gallons per day.

Again, I don't think it's the source water for the tank. I think that it's new and just going through a brown algae phase. I just wish it hadn't choked out all of the coraline underneath it.
 
same problem here

same problem here

i have i think the same bull**** brown algae bloom you do, except my tank is about 2years old.

ive actually never had such an algae bloom until about a month ago and out of now where....
all over my live rock, sand, glass....i too take it off with a toothbrush but its growing back with no slowing....

my corals dont mind, except my xenia's ....they look really ****ed....my water too is very close to your readings as well....

Im going to take my water in tommaro to see what the lfs says....ive been trying to fix it my self but it seems that i too think starting over would be eaiser......
 
does your algea look like this

does your algea look like this

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here are some shots
 
The last pics there are just diatoms, not bad, and are easily controlled with snails and other microalgae grazers. They are very palettable. Some ceriths for the sand, and maybe a fighting conch, or sand sifting cuke.
 
update from lfs

update from lfs

i got my water tested thourghly at the lfs and i have found my problem...

i use the phosphate remover (little white balls that turn yellow)
I didnt change it for 3 months and the guy at the lfs says that is the source of the diatoms....but i also will get some live stock to fix...thanks
 
dammit dammit dammit

dammit dammit dammit

just an update, i thought it was my flow rate in my tank being about 200gph for a 90gallon, so i upgraded to a mag9.5.....and still diatoms.....now my temp is up to about 84-85 degrees and i am trying to figure out how to add fans to my canopy....


what a money pit.

any way i did add a sandsifting goby and he died after 3 days.....water tested produced no reason....just stress.....or maybe he sweat to death......

are diatoms caused by a temp rise too?
 
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