Algae Scrubber Basics

The scrubber had been up and running a few months. I clean it every 7-10 days. I have good attachment but not a lot of hairy growth.

Yes, translucent. It reminds me of gelatin. When the scrubber is running I can only tell its there because I know what I'm looking for. When I take it out to clean it it is obvious. I'll try to get a good shot of it tonight.
 
Hmmm I've seem the gelatin stuff before, what are your N and P readings, and how many hours/day are the lights on?

Got a pic of the setup?
 
I just changed the set up. I don't have a pic of the old set up but I posted it a few pages back. Here is how it is now.
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Here is a shot of the jelly, not great but you can make it out. It looks like a bubble.
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I need to check my flow. I may make my screen a little narrower. I am also going to try a different cut pattern in my PVC. I feed the skimmer from the over flow and I get a lot of air bubbles sputtering out.
 
I thought the entire screen was covered in clear, it doesn't look like this in these pics, maybe just the middle. The yellow indicates to me that you don't have enough flow for the light you are providing. It looks like you have a pretty strong yellow base from these pics.
 
How do you have the screen attached? Interesting concept with the HOB.. might have to try that

The screen is attached with nothing more than pressure. At the top of the screen, I cut it so it forms a "T" shape, to keep it anchored into the HOB.

I haven't done the clear screen yet. Still rocking the black, but I roughed it up good and proper with a hole saw. It is starting to get some thick green hair growth, which is good! Still covered in plenty of yellow film algae too, but it looks like the green stuff is slowly taking over.
 
Just got back from Home Depot. Got everything I need but couldnt find the screen. Where can I get screen locally? I have like a frilly nylon one that I got at a fabric store that I use for another application. Can I use that with another tube to weigh it down at the bottom?
 
I used darice #7 plastic canvas from a fabric store (JoAnn's fabric) I think its used for crochete (spelling?). I heard Walmart has it cheaper but I only paid like $1 for the sheet so seems like it can't get much cheaper..
 
Should be about $0.50/sheet at JoAnn Fabric. #7 Darice, either the plain (clear/translucent - not solid color/opaque) or the extra stiff is fine.
 
So for a waterfall style scrubber, it's dead silent for me after cleaning but after just 2 days it becomes very loud again as the water shoots out of the sides. The sheet is installed about half way in the perfectly cut pipe.

I've tried doing it all the way in and it doesn't help.

Old picture, I've since replaced the sheet with the plastic canvas.

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Yes several folks have; you can easily put an upflow style in them. For air, just use a "T" at the bottom, so that air comes out of the two holes.
 
I am interested in building one of these for my 400 gallon DT. I am thinking vertical 1' wide by 4' tall. I am wondering what the best lighting would be? I would prefer to use tubes to keep the width to a minimum. Will regular t5 work or do I need HO? Will 2 bulbs per side be sufficient? Your thoughts are appreciated!

The above sizing is based on the old guidelines. My tank is early days but eventually I can see getting to 6 cubes per day. Help me size this correctly!

Jeff
 
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6 cubes/day would only be 72 square inches. Your 12" x 48" screen would technically be big enough for 48 cubes/day of feeding, if you had enough flow and light. Even with the old guidelines, there was a point of dimishinging returns w/r to growth, which is one of the things that triggered the guideline revision.

Starting with a 6 cube/day scrubber IMO would be the way to go. It will likely be a while before you start to exceed that capacity, and with larger tanks you really should attack filtration from multiple angles, so other components will take on their share of the filtration capacity over time.

But back to your original question, you do need T5HO as standard T5s don't really have the output density you need generally. For a 48x12 scrubber you would want almost 600W of total light, which is 300w per side, and with a 48" 54W T5HO lamp that's 6 per side, or one for every 2" of screen width. But that gets pretty ridiculous when you factor in reflector width, so realistically, you'll be able to get 4 in there at 3" width per reflector.

For a 72" sq in screen of the same width (12") you're looking at 6" tall x 12" wide and that's much easier to deal with. 2 18-23W CFLs on each side will do you very well, and you could actually use the floodlight CFLs also. Alternatively, you can use LEDs if you are handy and can do the build yourself, or you can use a stock fixture - but you have to be picky about which one you get, they are definitely not all alike.
 
Just built mine I really just made it to keep algae out of the display any other benefits of it also anything I should be careful with?
 
Don't let it go too long without cleaning once it gets established. Once the algae mat gets to a certain thickness, the lower layers will start to die off due to lack of light and flow. So monitor growth and try to stick to a schedule for cleaning. It helps to write down conditions at each cleaning so you can know what your 'sweet spot' is. Or take pictures/video.

If you want to check to make sure you didn't miss anything important, take pics and post here. Full tank shot, full sump shot, closeups of the scrubber setup, etc.
 
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