All Good With No Filtration Working?

herring_fish

Crazy Designer
Re: Refugium

I have a 130 Gallon reef tank with 10 fish and several corals. It has been running for about 9 months with a dump bucket style Algae Turf Scrubber (ATS). I designed and built revisions 1 and 2 for my old tank and between them, ran great for 12 years. I shut down the old tank only because I relocated. I decided to re-used my tried and true Revision 2 ATS on my new tank.

In the first 4 months, I had no algal growth because the re-animated base rock bacteria took care of the light load of just the corals. My nutrient levels all ran zero. That is when I bought the fish. Just as the algae started to get growing, I added a 55 gallon sump refugium filled to the brim with a special coral rubble from Caribsea but is not offered for sale.

These pieces are just under fist sized and are very porous. They sit on a bottom of coral sand about 3 inches deep. My two mangrove plants dried up and died from neglect during a long set up phase so I placed their 95 watt compact florescent light low on one side of the tank so that its light goes through the glass and only hits the rock there and the rest of volume is dark.

The water enters the sump across the top at one end and spills over to the return pump at the other end. This means that there is very little water flow down deep in the rock pile. I wanted to see what would happen if I created cryptic and benthic zones.

Since I added the fuge, the ATS stopped growing any algae but the nutrient levels have remained steadfastly zero. I have never encountered a cycle spike in this tank. I have been slowly upping the addition of powdered food for filter feeders and too much flake food for the fish and critters.

Lately, I have started to get a little brown slim that grows slowly in the ATS. It floats on the turbulent surface of the water, in the dump bucket so it is easy to harvest. I assume that it is full of diatoms and other sun loving bacteria.

The rock in the show tank remains clean and my tests continue to run at zero. The splash from the dump bucket provides enough oxygen but without algae growing to take up the carbon dioxide, the pH falls so I dose additives. Alkalinity also drops so I started adding baked Arm and Hammer. Of course, I dose for calcium and other trace elements but don't do water changes. I did have an accidental salinity drop so I had to replace about 50 gallons several months ago. I have a top of system now so I hope not to repeat that again.

Basically, I have an almost no maintained tank that I can throw any food that I want into and everything stays happy and clean. What is going on? Is a large refugiun that powerful? What headache(s) am I headed for?
 
Wow, interesting. I think the 55g drum of rubble is really helping you out there. You've got a lot of experience, however you should know better than to try to fix that C02 problem with A&H. Might want to get a small air pump in the drum pulling air from outside the house/apt.

You might want to pull the ATS and see if that helps/hurts. If it doesn't hurt, then thats one less thing to worry about.

Just my $0.02 though.
 
I could use a little money.

I could use a little money.

I'm not trying to control C02. I have been thinking about using outside air. The ATS always did that very well but now it is suppressed. I just saw a link to an article written by Randy Holmes-Farley. I haven't even read it yet. I'm actually just getting read to use it.

The ATS only yells about a ¼ of slim per week. Other than that, it's basically just a very bright 4 foot long plastic pan with water running over it. Other than being a great insurance policy, it does make a great splash so I get great air exchange. Of course it is forcing inside air into the water.

I moved it up and down ...and found that about one foot up in the air was the Goldilock point for me, when the cabinet is closed. At that height, the water picks up speed before the crash but is soothing "¦not loud.

I bought that air pump and month ago. I guess that I should get to it.
 
iff u want nitrates, up the waterflow in the rock pile, lol. im guessing those porous rocks u got there, with the low flow is acting as good denitrification. where can i get em? i need to cure some trates
 
There just isn't enough to offer for sale. I think that good base rock would work very well though.

Just another note. I am really bombing my tank with lots of several different powders. I may be wrong but I'm using lots of "Reef Bugs" as well, which has a fair amount of bacteria in it. The tank seems to be running cleaner with more bugs than without.
 
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