And so it begins

KafudaFish

Cyprinius carpio
Team RC
Though I have been on RC for years I have never started a build thread for various reasons. I guess my visiting this forum once again has sparked some interest and maybe this thread will keep it going. I have no idea where this will be going but I hope for the best but I am looking at this more as an experiment than anything serious. My first interest was in zoa tanks and Mucho's and Archie's TOTM have always been such an inspiration to me. They are extremely peaceful to look at and they showed that an understanding of the biology goes much further than any piece of equipment. I have never had success even close to their level but realized a long time ago that a TOTM does not equal enjoyment. There was a thread asking where all the TOTM are now and many of those have been broken down due to many reasons: tank crashes, lack of interest, and the reefer going in another direction. I think many, especially new hobbyists look at these tanks for inspiration only to walk away and quit because their tanks do not measure up either. This is one place many miss the point of the hobby: your own enjoyment.

At this point you are probably thinking why is he doing this? This is supposed to be positive yet he is being negative in this thread. I guess it is because many loose interest and leave the hobby. Some leave for good and others come back poking around for a bit and then go their own direction. Perhaps I can spark that interest in those as well. It would be sad to loose those die hard reefers and more importantly the knowledge they have gained would be lost as well.
Honestly I have thought about quitting this hobby numerous times due to life getting in the way and other events like tank crashes. That being said I should turn to some of the positives.

Like many I have more ideas of what I would like to try and do with the hobby than I have space and time to do it. I guess I could be considered a wishy washy reefer. If I did everything I wanted I would need 6 systems running at my house and that just is not possible. Instead I sat down and made a list of things that I have wanted to try and here is some of the list:

Try a nano/pico tank because I enjoy the ability to get up close and personal.
Have a simple tank with minimal equipment and if possible none viewable. My eyes drift to that PH and I spend more time looking at it than the life.
A tank with a single blenny or goby because even though the tank is small you have to watch it in order to see everything and I like it when fish come in and out of the picture.
Have a tank that is enjoyable to view vs. just another thing to care for everyday.
A tank that has no sand but is not bare bottom if that makes sense.
A tank that is not a kid in the candy store build. I love looking at the diverse colors of zoas and how they look in the tank but I want to go a different direction. I have always wondered what a tank would look like with a single color morph. Basically if we went to a natural reef and cut out a section and stuck it in a box.
On occasion there is discussion on fragging and growth rates and I would like to see if there are any differences in how we frag and success and failure rates.
Finally I want to take the challenge of not only building a reef but also growing one so I guess Mucho you can either take the blame or the credit for all of this.

As I stated earlier this is an experiment and hopefully a marathon and not a sprint. There will probably be more text and long winded paragraphs than eye candy but I hope you stick around and give me both your positive and negative comments because I too want to learn.
 
Wow though crowd so have some eye candy:

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very nice....two boobies on one leg...lol
ive always wondered what it would be like to have a smaller tank full of just ricordeas i think one morph would be pretty cool looking in a nano especially if you start with one small colony and seen if they morphed as they filled the tank
 
Sounds interesting. You say no sand but not BB, for a long time I've thought of doing a tile bottom and seeing if I could grow a zoa lawn.
 
Thanks. I was beginning to believe that what I wrote was a waste of people’s time or the words were invisible. I wondered if some read about the single morph and thought it was a waste of time.

I thought about tumbled marble too. Lowes and HD sells a square foot for $6 and what doesn’t get covered looks natural. I even thought about taking a mason bit drilling a hole through all the pieces and then making a stairwell or a fan of playing cards going up if that makes sense. I may still do that one day. As I said I have more ideas than space so I will have to remember that.

Also there was a reefer on another site that did his bottom with the tile and when he needed to frag he just lifted the tile out cut the zoa and put it all back. He tore his tank down before it filled in but it worked well.

As far as the no sand no BB angle I think I have things figured out and it will be similar to a false wall. This should help with detritus build up and hiding equipment too.
 
Hey Mike,

First of all, welcome back. :beer:

There are some really beautiful tanks with a minimalist point of view. If I started over again I might like to go that route. A beautiful branch coral arangement (very small arrangement) with bare bottom. Z's and P's growing on the branches.

I'm interested to see what you come up with.

Good luck!!!!
 
KafudaFish, best of luck to you. I'm sure it will be a gorgeous system and I agree, personal enjoyment is all one should strive for. God luck mate.
 
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Good news everyone.

Because I would never be able to complete the build due to children needing things I brought the materials to work and figured I would work on it during my lunch. My boss came in and asked what I was doing. She said cool why not leave it in the office so this maybe an office build as well.

Progress so far:

Tank just a simple 5.5 gallon that I recycled from my fish closet. One goal was to reuse as much fish junk as possible and I will except my lights.

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Needs a good cleaning.

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The skeleton of my reef.

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The removable floor.

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The floor will be suspended a half inch or so off the tank bottom.
As I said I am a wishy washer reefer and I want the flexibility to change the tank down the line if things are not working. Plus when I frag I just pull a section out like you would with rock and glue.

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You have to have a certain degree of danger and the possiblity of flowing blood. As my FIL always says the job is not finished unless you see blood. I used the deck boards as a guide to cut the egg crate. I will cut some more for the sides and back too. After I rough cut those out I will take some snipes and shape the pieces. Now if I could only find the tool.
 
Cleaned the tank up some and I started the PH box. Right now it looks well like a box but as I make more of the reef skeleton I hope that it will look less "man made".

It is pretty big though and will take up a huge chunk of space. I will have to work some more next week on it if I can find the rest of my supplies that are hiding from me.

If I don't like it I may go with a smaller PH like the MJ 900 smaller though this maybe the only big rock structure for the entire tank.

Stay tuned and have a good weekend.
 
Ok while dodging the citizens of stupidville for the drive home I decided the box was just too big and would take up too much space in the tank and I was making things too complicated and getting away from one of my "goals" of maximizing live rock surface and minimizing the rock volume.
Confussed yet?
In addition I thought about the floor too and decided I had to start again. It was going to be a pain to try and line everything up and not have too much of a seam.

Solutions came to me though. The PH will still have a box but it will be against the back wall like an overflow box, yet still hidden and I know how I am going to direct my flow from it.
For the floor it will still be "floating" and I can still remove it but instead of cutting the floor and then building it I will be building it and then cutting it to fit my tank.
I don't know why I did not think about it because I have done that too and it worked well.

Any thoughts of how I will do this? Maybe you can give some suggestions that work better than mine.
 
Ok I made some progress since last week. I spend my lunch break working on the tank so it will continue to go slow but at least there is some.

Last Friday I was making a box for my powerhead and when I finished and stuck it in the tank I realize it was too big and by the time I made a rock out of it it would take up too much area.

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So I thought some and decided to "hang" it on the back wall. It will be attached in addition to the sump pump and I will also have a place for the ATO if I needed it down the road.

I am trying to be flexible on things and those what if's that pop up.

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One of my goals is to have everything hidden because of the tank size.

Another view:

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I will show how I attached it later around lunch time.
 
Friday morning before a 3 day weekend with all my work finished so a few updates and pictures.
I installed the PH box and the ATO box by attaching them to the back of the tank.
Note: Always have the equipment with you so you don't make the frame too big. I was estimating the ATO pipe and have had to go back to make it smaller. It is ok because I can attach other rock to it as well.
I have almost finished the right wall too and will install it later today during lunch.

Plans for the next week include finishing the back wall and the left one. If I have time I will make the floating floor. For some reason I am building top down and now bottom up in order to make sure I can remove it with everything in place.

Pictures:
My "rock":

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Shaping and mixing tool:

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Attaching to the back wall:

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Southdown sand that I have been saving for years to make live rock:

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The water stop and sand mixed together:

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I got the right wall installed Friday and it looks pretty good. I am happy with it so far. I guess it says something about going slow and getting things to work vs. having to make things fit.
There is a gap between the PH box and the wall but that will be filled in later on so it looks to be connected.
I have three blenny holes on this wall. I used 3/4 PVC and attached them to the egg crate using zip ties and then cement. I roughed the PVC with a saw blade so the mix would stick better. I will go back and fill in those areas too.

I threw on some sand at the end for texture and will brush some of it off before I fill the tank.

The skeleton:

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The wall is turned and the far left side is the top of the wall.

Making the wall. The good thing about this technique is I can go back and build up what I have already done if I don't like something.

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It is pretty much finished here. I attached it to the back and side of the tank using straight waterstop.

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I will see if I can get any pictures attached later.
 
I cannot believe that another week has gone by. Perhaps it was the long weekend that made it so.

This week I worked on the right wall, did the basis of the back wall with more blenny holes, and put a hole under the PH box and one under the ATO box.

I was looking at the tank on Th. and realized I needed some more details on the rock work so I started adding a few pieces.

I changed from my dry technique of rock making to a wet one. Both work and both have their place. If anyone is interested please ask questions.

I still have some more to do and have not started the left side wall at all. I am kind of at a stand still and am slowly getting ideas.

I will take a few pictures in the morning and provide a FTS to show my progress.

By next Friday I hope to have finished all the walls and started on the floor.

Thanks for looking.
 
Looking forward to seeing more. I like the eggcrate/cement look. I keep getting tempted to put up a nano tank, just to see if I can more than anything. Though I suspect I would end up cheating and plumb it in to my main system.
 
That is not cheating just using your resources.

Next to the PH box:

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Sorry for the glare from the window and my reflection in the front glass.
 
I think I have my stand worked out and it stays in theme of reuse and doing things differently.

I may also have my sump worked out too because of it.

I hope to finish the small details of the walls and start the floor later on today too. I have changed how I am going to do it though.
 
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