anemone advice

spieszak

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Hey all

Just looking for some advice as far as adding an anemone to my tank. Recently (about 2 weeks ago) I added two ocellaris clowns to my tank. They are happy and healthy and doing well, although they are still searching for "something" to host. I have both a torch and a frospawn that they are courting, but neither really wants to accept their attention.
I added the clowns since clowns don't necessarily need to host to be happy, and since either a torch or a frowspawn have been known to accept their attention.
I'm now feel a bit bad for both the clowns and the torch/frogspawn since the clowns seem to really care about hosting, and the corals don't seem to care to be hosted.
I'd like to consider adding an nem for the sake of both the clowns and the corals, such that I don't know how much "attention" the corals will tolerate, and since the clowns that came home with me really want to host.
I'm concerned that since both the torch and the frogspawn need plenty of room, and any nem will also...that I will end up with one or more of the three doing battle for space and that I may end up losing all because of those battles.
I'm working under the assumption that my lighting will support a nem in that the torch and the frogspawn are going very well, with the torch (a little lower in the water column) has almost doubled in size in the last 2 months, and the frogspawn has also had some significant growth (higher in the water column, doesn't "need" to stretch out so much for lighting so it's growth has been slower, and also harder to gauge) I have not done any target feeding on these guys, but i do shut everything down and feed the tank once a week (opposite the days I do the additives).

My tank stats are below. Any advice towards adding a nem would be greatly appreciated. Of course my first choice would be a rbta, but I don't want to fix my gaze on anything until I have some opinions...

tank
60 gallon
Filtration
70 pds or so of rock, 45 or so of which was live when added. (the lace rock that wasn't live has purpled up and has plenty of activity now, so I'm assuming at this point that it is for the most part now also live)
1 inch live argonite, 2 inch live sand.
Running a Fluval canister, and a hang on rated for a 50 gal.
Aqua C Remora rated to 75 gal

Lighting
4x54w vho one (set) about 6 inches over the water surface (in the front) one (set) about 4 inches above the water surface (back) Each running one 10k, and one blue actinic.
2 Led blue "bubble bar" types on alternate short sides of the tank as moonlight lighting, although they 24X7)
nitrate/nitrites/ammonia - haven't been measurable in 4 months.
salinity 1.024 (+/- .001 with water changes now that I have the mixing down correctly)
Using a mag/stont/iodine/calc about weekly. Using calc as my guide to when I add.

Stock list
3 yellow tailed damsels
1 algea blenny
1 manadarin goby
1 cleaner shrimp
1 fire shrimp
1 lonely peppermint shrimp (taking care of a little aptasia)
2 ocellaris clowns

1 torch
1 forgspawn
misc mushrooms, a kenya tree and some xenia
 
What I'd say would to be that you've got to be dedicated for a nem, not because you really think they look cool (not saying your like that, just a side comment) and if the anemone moves around like most BTA's they will move constantly to find a suitable place. Then you will have to move the corals accordingly before any conflict arises. I'm not really sure about the lights and everything else but some nem experts will chime in on them. Also its really important that you have your tank been running for at least 6 months more is better (so I've heard). Good luck.
 
Forgot to mention, and doesn't necessarily speak to the nem, but tank conditions are such that my damsels are breeding. (No babies have made it through predation yet, but they have spawned at least twice as I've been able to watch the babies darting in and out of the live rock near where my "alpha" damsel has made a home..)
Makes me a bit "more" confident that the imperceptable things in the tank are doing well...
 
Well yea if your Really dedicated and feel that you can properly care for one go ahead. Make sure you do your fair amount of research, so you can accurately know what to expect and so it doesn't die and nuke your whole tank. I still want to see if some more experienced anemone people approve of your light, personally I think its good, but I'm still a newbie so try to get some more advice. Also raise your salinity to about 1.026 and anemones prefer this amount and it replicates natural sea water. But yea everything else seems good to me but be careful as the anemone WILL most likely move and might sting other corals if they are in the way. Good Luck!
 
Also raise your salinity to about 1.026 and anemones prefer this amount and it replicates natural sea water. But yea everything else seems good to me but be careful as the anemone WILL most likely move and might sting other corals if they are in the way. Good Luck!

+1 On the salinity. But I dont completely agree with the other part most of my nems have never moved at all. If you keep them happy they are not going anywhere. You have a mandarin so no sand dwelling nems. How long has your tank been set up? I am not farmiliar with that light so I dont know if it will be enough.
 
Close to 6 months now on the tank setup. I was assuming that I wouldn't need to worry to much about sand dwelling/rock dwelling since I have the clowns who really want to host, so I thought they'd pretty much keep the mandarin away..
I won't have a problem moving the corals if the nem moves.. I've "wedged" them rather than gluing them for two reasons.. first because the torch and frogspawn could have turned on each other, and second because I don't want glue in the tank if I can help it, even if everyone says it's safe.. the less foreign man made stuff I put in the better as I see it..
Waiting on a few more opinions, but I'll look at starting to increase my salinity (slowly) in preperation...
 
Sorry meant a lot of BTAs move around well to what Ive heard as I think he was talking about getting an RBTA. Just my $.02
 
from what I understand, they only move if they are unhappy with current conditions, and the movement means that you need to check whats going on with your tank, because no matter how much the nem moves in a glass box, conditions aren't going to change much... I have a "spot" picked out that I think will provide optimum lighting and water flow, and it's a decent stretch away from the frogspawn and torch.. I know the nem may choose another spot, meaning I may need to move the other two to accomadate....
 
Yea a lot of people have a "good" spot for a BTA when they get it, like I did. Truth be told if you think its the best spot for lighting, water movement, ect. the BTA might not as they just go where they think the conditions are best suited to their liking and it could be under a rock out crop or in the corner of the tank or where ever they feel like lol just hope they like the place you put them in. If it is moving because of water conditions like parameters than that's a different story as I think that they will just keep on moving until they find better conditions , which they wont unless you fix the parameter problem.
 
Forgot to mention, and doesn't necessarily speak to the nem, but tank conditions are such that my damsels are breeding. (No babies have made it through predation yet, but they have spawned at least twice as I've been able to watch the babies darting in and out of the live rock near where my "alpha" damsel has made a home..)
Makes me a bit "more" confident that the imperceptable things in the tank are doing well...

Have you ever seen any eggs? Odds are good that you are actually seeing mysid shrimp.
 
In the back of my mind, I've kind of been working on the assumption the nem wouldn't choose the spot I chose, so that way I'm pretty prepared for the idea of moving the others.
If I go with the rbta, since from what I've read they are the most forgiving.. should I also take the rock the nem is currently attached to? Or is adding the live rock and the nem at the same time going to be too large a bio load to add at once?
 
I haven't seen eggs.. but my damsel has a spot that he gaurds that is deep enough and at an angle in the tank where I can't really see it.. if there were eggs, I would assume they were there.
The "babies" that i'm seeing look at lot more like tadpoles that the pictures of mysid shrimp I've seen...
 
I don't really think it matters just if you do decide to take the RBTA without the rock make sure it is taken off properly as it could damage the RBTA's foot and that could be fatal. Or unless the rock its on is like a 1/3 give or take of your tank I don't think the bio load would change a lot of any.
 
If you have the opportunity to buy the rock it is attatched to do it! It will be a lot less stressful for the anemone. Make sure to acclimate it to your lights.
 
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