Dragonlady
Premium Member
The antifreezer burn additive contains phosphate. Would this be a potential long term problem for sensitive species such as H. magnifica? Just looking for others opinions.
Anemones:frozen grocery store shrimp and antifreezer burn additive
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elegance coral
They call me EC
I stoped using it because my Elegance corals were regurgitating it prematurely.
If you want to see for yourself how much phosphate is really in that stuff, do a phosphate test on some RO/DI water, then drop a small piece of that shrimp into the solution. It went clean off the chart when I did it.
If you want to see for yourself how much phosphate is really in that stuff, do a phosphate test on some RO/DI water, then drop a small piece of that shrimp into the solution. It went clean off the chart when I did it.
Dragonlady
Premium Member
Thank you. I am glad I decided to wait for the shrimp that has never been frozen. What do you think about feeding cherry shrimp gut loaded with selcon vits every once and a while?
interesting
interesting
When i first got in the hobby i had for about a year mag that was doing great until i fed it some shoprite shrimp.
I asked if they were previously frozen because if they are they contain chems. It was and the guy lied.
It was a 13 inch 200 dollar mag.
Shop rite gave me the money back and the fish guy took owner ship for the mistake.
Thats why i don't feed supermarket fish.
interesting
When i first got in the hobby i had for about a year mag that was doing great until i fed it some shoprite shrimp.
I asked if they were previously frozen because if they are they contain chems. It was and the guy lied.
It was a 13 inch 200 dollar mag.
Shop rite gave me the money back and the fish guy took owner ship for the mistake.
Thats why i don't feed supermarket fish.
marc price
Active member
didn't know about a additive, is it listed on the packaging? i'm going out of town tomorrow so last week began every other day feedings of fresh fish market squid to my sebae anemone. i noticed a faster feeding response with the squid than the shrimp, could it be the additive? anyway i had prepared shrimp portions to be fed once a week during my absence now i'll change it to squid. better safe than sorry until we've more info on this.
Rod Buehler
New member
most all, even "the freshest" seafood are packed in tripolyphosphate, and should be rinsed, and then rinsed again. It is "Food safe" but not really something that we want in our tanks. I would still cut those shrimp into small pieces to feed your anemone with. My anemones only receive the particles that make it past my fish
marc price
Active member
r.v., where you and i are located, i'm pretty sure bluefish, shad because it's seasonal this time of year and a few others which i can't think of now usually are if you get it from a fish market.
marc price
Active member
without more credible scientific facts, i for one am not convinced this is as big a issue as being made out to be and would feed seafood counter over packaged for the pet trade any day. obviously there are many supermarkets that i'd never buy seafood from.
i've been feeding supermarket and three day/week farm market seafood counter food to my anemones and fish for many years and never had trouble. i usually as common practice, give it a good rinsing, all the more reason to do so now and i'm not going to lose sleep over it.
i've been feeding supermarket and three day/week farm market seafood counter food to my anemones and fish for many years and never had trouble. i usually as common practice, give it a good rinsing, all the more reason to do so now and i'm not going to lose sleep over it.
elegance coral
They call me EC
If you live anywhere near the coast, you should be able to find "fresh" seafood houses. You can also go to bait shops that carry live bait shrimp. I buy them for about $2 a dozen. I put them in my sump or refuge until I need to feed my critters. They help to keep sand clean while they're there as well.
elegance coral
They call me EC
I think that would work fine. I do the same thing but with live feeder fish from the LFS.
elegance coral
They call me EC
In my area, after they package up what you order, they put a sticker on it that states. Warning. May contain phosphates as a preservative.
lobsterotomy
I'd frag it.
Re: fresh
Re: fresh
Don't use the scallops - even fresh scallops are packed or tinned in with preservatives.
Shrimp may be treated too - raw shrimp are treated with a chemical that prevents it from turning grey.
Re: fresh
Don't use the scallops - even fresh scallops are packed or tinned in with preservatives.
Shrimp may be treated too - raw shrimp are treated with a chemical that prevents it from turning grey.
I often use canned tiny shrimp to feed anemones and my fish. They list the ingredients, and fortunately, phosphate is not one of them as it is for many other seafood products. I don't trust some frozen foods that list no ingredients, but those canned seafoods made in the US that do list them seem unlikely to contain others (hopefully 
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Rod Buehler
New member
from my understanding, tripolyphosphate does not need to be listed as an additive or ingredient but not 100% certain on that.. I do know that most of the stuff found at most local supermarkets (especially inland) are often packed in STTP. especially the "fresh oyster" and the "fresh Scallop" .
I also agree Marc Price about it being made into a bigger issue than what really should be.. Just get the freshest possible and rinse the seafoods before you use them.
Not that its any big deal but here is what wikipedia says about STTP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_tripolyphosphate
I also agree Marc Price about it being made into a bigger issue than what really should be.. Just get the freshest possible and rinse the seafoods before you use them.
Not that its any big deal but here is what wikipedia says about STTP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_tripolyphosphate
from my understanding, tripolyphosphate does not need to be listed as an additive or ingredient but not 100% certain on that..
On a canned food? Why would you think that?
On a canned food? Why would you think that?
Dragonlady
Premium Member
The additive does increase the weight and shelf life of the shrimp, which certainly makes since why they add it. I am still uncertain if it could cause long term problems with some sensitive invertebrates, but I really appreciate your opinions.
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