Anemones Spawning

clowns101

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I find this strange that every one of my RBTA's has spawned for the past 2 days at the same time.Ive watched them do it for the past 2 days at about 10:25-30.

Anyone else having their RBTA's spawning right now?They havent done it since around this time last year.Mabey this is their season for spawning in my tanks?!?!

Let me know if this is happing to anyone else.I would like to know.If it hasnt happend to you leave input if you want!

Thanks
 
How many BTA's do you have? Are they all clones of the same anemone? Did you observe them closely to insure that all of them are releasing sperm? Is it possible that at least one of them was not releasing sperm?
 
In one tank I have 6 RBTA's,3 of which are clones.The other 3 I have collected over the past 2 years from difirent people.And yes,I watched every anemone.All of them but the smallest one(2-3 inches)has releast some.I made sure to watch them all to see if I was right.
 
The smallest one is a clone.He was a recently split of about 4 weeks ago.He split from my other RBTA who is about 6 inches who who did spawn.
 
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the replies. I'm very interested in the sexual reproduction of both coral and anemones. If a portion of the anemones didn't release sperm, then there is a chance that a female is in the mix. If there is a female, there's the remote possibility for actual sexual reproduction. If they're all acting as males, there's not much of a chance for reproduction.
 
I dont mind questions!I like answering them if its going to help you and me both out!I myself im interested also in the spawning and reproduction of anemones and corals.Ive read up on the topic for a bit now.I do have a possible female in my other tank.I thought about introducing her into the system to see what would happen.However,I will consider it to be a very limited succsess if there was to be another spawn with a female in the tank.

I figured there isnt much of an chance for anything to happen.Im not going to play around with it much yet.I still need to set up my aquaculture tank for them.So till then I wont mess with them much.

Basiclly you told me what I thought!I still like hearing from others in the hobby and am glad that YOU responded!We'll will see if the spawning continues.If it does I will add a possible female to the mix and see what happens!

Thanks
 
I have a theory about guadracolor and magnifica reproduction, and the events you describe in your system, just adds one more tidbit of information leading me to think, I may be right. I could be completely wrong though.:hmm3: :lmao:

I believe both of these species share a very similar reproductive strategy. They both have two different "forms" within the species. The relatively small colonial anemones that reproduce asexually and releases sperm. Like the ones you have. Then there are the larger solitary individuals that are not known to reproduce asexually. At first this just didn't make any sense to me what so ever. How can you have two "forms" of the same species that have different modes of reproduction and live in different environments? That sounds like two different species to me, but they're not. There has to be some logical explanation. After years of contemplating and studying this issue, here's what I believe is taking place. Again, I could be completely wrong. There needs to be much more research on this topic before we have any real answers.

These animals typically live in large groups of genetically identical individuals. If the original anemone was male, every anemone in the colony should be male. For the long term survival, and ability to evolve, sexual reproduction within a species becomes very important. If all the anemones within the same general area are male, sexual reproduction becomes far less likely. I believe these anemones have found an answer to this problem. I believe all the anemones within a colony start out as male. I believe they reproduce by division until the colony reaches a given size or density. We know that anemones release pheromones, allelopathic, and other substances into the water. As the colony grows, the concentration of these substances within, and around, the colony will increase. I believe, at some point, this triggers a change within one or more of the individuals in the colony. The individual begins to grow, change from male to female, and eventually detaches from the substrate and drifts away. I read an article a long time ago about some researchers that were studying a particular area of a reef. They had it roped off, and would go to this area documenting changes as they took place. After more than a year of studying this one small section of reef, they returned to make there usual observations. To their surprise, right in the middle of their research area, was a huge magnifica. This anemone had not been there before, and could not have grown from a larvae in the time of their absence. The only logical explanation was that the anemone was brought there by the current. The researchers concluded that the anemone must have simply detached from its original location to avoid predation or to find a more suitable environment. They may have been 100% correct, but that's not what I believe happened. I believe the anemone was part of a colony. The conditions within the colony triggered this anemone to grow, change sexes, and detach from the substrate. It's very common throughout the animal kingdom for females to grow larger, when large numbers of offspring is the goal. We see this in clown fish, insects, spiders, some cuttle fish........ Eggs are much larger than sperm so if a female is to produce a large number of eggs, it pays to be large. Males can afford to be small, because their gametes don't take up much room. If there is a colony of males, and they all spawn at the same time, like is common and you have witnessed, they can flood the water with their gametes. If there are large solitary females in the area, there's a high likelihood of fertilization. With the female leaving the colony, she becomes much more likely to obtain sperm from an unrelated donor.

IMHO, if you ever decide to attempt a real sexual reproduction, your best bet would be to locate one of the large BTA's that hobbyists complain about never splitting for them. Then keeping it in a system of its own until your males spawn again. I'd be willing to bet that if you transferred sperm laden water into the system with the larger anemone, some time later, it would release larvae that settle quickly and begin to grow into new little BTA's. Of course, I could be completely wrong though. LOL.

All of this is based on anecdotal and circumstantial evidence, but it's the only explanation I have been able to come up with that explains the odd lifestyle of these animals.
 
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While genetic diversity is definitely desirable, these animals also likely have mechanisms in place to largely circumvent this problem with interbreeding between clones--likely similar to other organisms. Unless an animal doesn't have the energy necessary (such as a recent clone), any spawning event should induce other nearby individuals. I know in an unrelated species, H. crispa, this is definitely the case, as one individual will "excite" the others.
 
I have a theory about guadracolor and magnifica reproduction, and the events you describe in your system, just adds one more tidbit of information leading me to think, I may be right. I could be completely wrong though.:hmm3: :lmao:

I believe both of these species share a very similar reproductive strategy. They both have two different "forms" within the species. The relatively small colonial anemones that reproduce asexually and releases sperm. Like the ones you have. Then there are the larger solitary individuals that are not known to reproduce asexually. At first this just didn't make any sense to me what so ever. How can you have two "forms" of the same species that have different modes of reproduction and live in different environments? That sounds like two different species to me, but they're not. There has to be some logical explanation. After years of contemplating and studying this issue, here's what I believe is taking place. Again, I could be completely wrong. There needs to be much more research on this topic before we have any real answers.

These animals typically live in large groups of genetically identical individuals. If the original anemone was male, every anemone in the colony should be male. For the long term survival, and ability to evolve, sexual reproduction within a species becomes very important. If all the anemones within the same general area are male, sexual reproduction becomes far less likely. I believe these anemones have found an answer to this problem. I believe all the anemones within a colony start out as male. I believe they reproduce by division until the colony reaches a given size or density. We know that anemones release pheromones, allelopathic, and other substances into the water. As the colony grows, the concentration of these substances within, and around, the colony will increase. I believe, at some point, this triggers a change within one or more of the individuals in the colony. The individual begins to grow, change from male to female, and eventually detaches from the substrate and drifts away. I read an article a long time ago about some researchers that were studying a particular area of a reef. They had it roped off, and would go to this area documenting changes as they took place. After more than a year of studying this one small section of reef, they returned to make there usual observations. To their surprise, right in the middle of their research area, was a huge magnifica. This anemone had not been there before, and could not have grown from a larvae in the time of their absence. The only logical explanation was that the anemone was brought there by the current. The researchers concluded that the anemone must have simply detached from its original location to avoid predation or to find a more suitable environment. They may have been 100% correct, but that's not what I believe happened. I believe the anemone was part of a colony. The conditions within the colony triggered this anemone to grow, change sexes, and detach from the substrate. It's very common throughout the animal kingdom for females to grow larger, when large numbers of offspring is the goal. We see this in clown fish, insects, spiders, some cuttle fish........ Eggs are much larger than sperm so if a female is to produce a large number of eggs, it pays to be large. Males can afford to be small, because their gametes don't take up much room. If there is a colony of males, and they all spawn at the same time, like is common and you have witnessed, they can flood the water with their gametes. If there are large solitary females in the area, there's a high likelihood of fertilization. With the female leaving the colony, she becomes much more likely to obtain sperm from an unrelated donor.

IMHO, if you ever decide to attempt a real sexual reproduction, your best bet would be to locate one of the large BTA's that hobbyists complain about never splitting for them. Then keeping it in a system of its own until your males spawn again. I'd be willing to bet that if you transferred sperm laden water into the system with the larger anemone, some time later, it would release larvae that settle quickly and begin to grow into new little BTA's. Of course, I could be completely wrong though. LOL.

All of this is based on anecdotal and circumstantial evidence, but it's the only explanation I have been able to come up with that explains the odd lifestyle of these animals.

Thats intersting for you to bring that up!I belive that just as much as you do.Sounds like it is a very possible that this could happen.If it were to be the truth,the best way to test it would have to be in a larger,very large tank with a large foot print.I think that it is very possible for the male to change female after time of being in a colony,Dont doubt your self on this.I belive you have a very strong case here.Theres still alot to be learned about it though!

And what I dont get,is how can these creatures be so complex and know to remove them selves from a colony,when they have no brain!It dumbfounds me that they can do this!
 

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