anemones.....which one?

nightfire

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so guys which are a good anemone to have.....as far as flow goes im good and may even add a bit more in a few months.....lights are good now and when i fix my my 660 to fire all four t5s then ill be really good for my tank size....so which would be good aside from a RBA? .... i love the carpet ones but a 55g is too small for it......experts chime in please....thanks guys :D
 
They should be left in the ocean where they can survive! Most people kill them in short order from starvation or poor water quality. They do require a system far superior to what you have Mario and it would only be a matter of time before it's demise. IMO they should not even be sold unless they are captive breed to tank conditions from the start.
Bill
 
the tank is a little over 2 years now...thanks Bill for the advice maybe one day i will have a more superior tank till then i will make do lol...
 
You May!

You May!

the tank is a little over 2 years now...thanks Bill for the advice maybe one day i will have a more superior tank till then i will make do lol...

That's the point! You may make do but the Anemone will most likely perish, They were almost collected out of existance years ago and IMO should be Banned from Sale. But that is Just My Opinion. I would guess that 9 of ten Sold wil Die when they are placed in tanks that are not suitable for their needs.
And I'm not telling you not to get one just the Facts of Longevity of them!
Bill
 
you can easily keep maxi mini anemones. and the whole "tanks less than a year old" thing is only relevant for very hard to keep nems. I put maxi minis in my tank when it was 2 months old and have not had a single problem. They are VERY aggressive though, so if you have a problem with replacing your fish every six months then don't get them. THEY WILL EAT YOUR FISH EVENTUALLY. I should be getting a shipment of about 20 of them in the next couple months and might be able to let a few go.
 
Do any of the clowns host in them? I've only started to hear about them in the last 6-9 months, where are they from? Can you post a bunch of general and specific information on them Adrian? Thanks,

Fidel
 
I believe clowns will kill them. But not for sure maybe someone at chime in.

Bubble tip Nem Are hardy had one for 2yrs in a 29tall tank. You can get them $10-$650
And after your clowns start hosting them they will feed them for you. Cool
Thing to watch.
 
They are coming from all over really. I know one online retailer is getting hers from viet nam. They don't host any fish. and they will kill (and eat) the clowns, not the other way around. they are found in reef flat areas among macro algae and rubble. I believe they come from pretty turbid waters so a higher nutrient load is not an issue.

They do host commensal shrimp, (i.e. pedersons, sexy shrimp, etc.., i don't know about anemone crabs though.) they do best in lower lighting, or rather hold their colors better. this is the common thought i have encountered anyway.

I have mine in moderate/low flow in a tank with display macros and coral. other than the macros and LR/LS, I HAVE NO OTHER FORM OF FILTRATION. The tank is a 40 br lit only with a 24" 4 bulb T5HO unit.

Last I heard, they haven't reproduced by fission in captivity (or in the wild that has been documented), but they can be cut. They broadcast spawn to reproduce, which can get kinda messy. they don't move around really at all. AND THEY STAY SMALL..
 
good thoughts and talking guys......heres one for the ones who have had them in their tanks.....whats best added to a tank to bennefit them as far as additives go.....even though i've seen anemones in tanks with out anything other then just regular water changes
 
The best alternative to an anemone - no feeding, doesn't move around, won't eat your fish, won't sting corals, won't get stuck in your overflow, is a nice pretty green color, you won't mind if it dies and best of all, its actually free - hair algae! :D My clowns have a fit if I try to prune their beloved HA from their rock! They play in it, sleep in it and (try to) spawn in it...
 
Fish are healthy, corals are thriving, water is crystal clear... I've gotten used to the blasted stuff. Nothing I've tried has worked. I bought some AlgaeFix, but haven't used it yet.
 
maybe it's your live rock? everytime when I get some new live rocks, they always produce PO4 for some reason
 
RBTA's and GBTA's will move around some times they will stay in one place for a year or more but eventually they will move. SO be prepared to loose your favorite SPS, LPS or softie when they take a walk. Additionally all powerheads nearby need to have covers on them which is a real pain in that they have to be cleaned every 2 or three days. If you are cool with that and dealing with the splits then they are pretty neat. +1 on tank raised. I have a 4th gen (that I know of ) RBTA and it has only killed three nice pieces. Presently covering a formerly nice superman that was fully encrusted on the rock that the nem likes.

good luck. Clown will also host in frog spawn or larger torches.
 
Unless you have a really good system its best to go with a BTA for clowns. They can multiply and they can move. I'm not saying they are easy to care for but I keep my RBTA anemone in a 36 bowfront with no skimmer or filter. I do have a HOB refugium, dual 150 MH 14000k lamps. and dual BoodsLED par 30 with 4x royal blues and 1x white in each bulb.

Light and stability are the two main things I've found to keep an anemone alive. Keeping nitrates at around 5 ppm seems to work great also. Anemone absorb the water and feed from the nitrates in it. You do not want your nitrates to be more than 10 PPM though.

The biggest challenge I've had with them is keeping them past a 2 week mark. At 2 weeks, it's often shown to be thriving or dieing. With a 55 gallon tank, you should be fine with a BTA but what gets me is your mention of 4 t5 bulbs. Some people claim to keep anemone in low t5 light but with just the dual 150w halides on my 36 gallon tank, my RBTA shows a lot of browning which was my main reason for adding the BoostLED par30 bulbs.

I needed some serious actinic as well as more light that the halides were giving. I've also got 48 cheap 470 nm leds on the tank that really don't put out a whole lot of light but really make for a nice bright night lighting. Between the BoostLEDs, the two strips of 470 nm leds, and the 14000k metal halides, my tank looks prismatic as well as awe inspiring. Damn shame I haven't got the camera to capture the color.

I've tried keeping long tentacle and BTA under quad t5 on both my 36 gallon and my 20L only to watch the anemone quickly fade away. If you want to get a BTA then double check all your parameters and if you have any second guesses about something being off they don't get the anemone.

Nitrate below 10 ppm ideally 5 ppm and controlled. if you try to maintain it at 5 ppm and it shifts, it is much better to shift to 1 ppm than it is to shift to 11 ppm. If you think you may need more light then you most likely do. Be sure your water is clean. Skimmer will take food from your coral and anemone so the way I stand is to do without the skimmer or simply turn the skimmer down so it collects less.

My favorite is a tank full of filter feeders. All the filter feeders along with a large amount of live rock really go a long way to giving me clean water. Last but not least. Frozen mysid are your best friend. Live mysid and the anemone would be in heaven. Maybe one other thing. Anemone get stressed easy enough as it is, don't be afraid to take some extra time acclimating it. Anymore, I will always drip acclimate my anemone for as long as my time permits in a room where the temperature is close to 79 degree.

Sorry If I just rambled on to much about it but the short is, as long as your parameters are right where they need to be, the lighting is good, you feed it what it wants to eat, and acclimate it really good, you have a good chance of the anemone making it past the two week point. If happy then, they usually remain happy unless you start letting things get out of whack.
 
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