Another 180g Project has begun

[black9ice]

I will start off with the tank arriving last night, delivered by me and a very helpful neighbor. The 3 holes drilled are 1.5" for the 3 separate closed loop pumps.

Here is where it will be placed long term. Sorry for the mess :eek1:

Enjoy! More updates later this weekend, I need to construct the stand and move the tank into place. The room is roughly 8'X9.5'.
The system will be over 450g, 240g sump, 135g fuge, and 180g tank.

 

[black9ice]

Here is an evening update. You can park a small car easy on this stand! Yes it is attached to the wall.

Front View

Back View

Side View

And yes the tank is at a very nice viewing height as I am 6' 2" and it is almost eye level in the middle. I am so happy we raised the stand height considerably.

 

[Dubbin1]

Please tell me that those 4x4's are not treated.

 

[black9ice]

Yes and why so?

 

[tangreef68]

looks like a nice tank

 

[Dubbin1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6503354#post6503354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by black9ice
Yes and why so?

Because treated lumber WILL shrink. And when I say shrink I do not mean a little bit. Do yourself a favor and before you go any further replace the 4x4's with non treated lumber.

 

[Airman]

I like the ideal of a large sump and refugium.

 

[Kreeger1]

YEah, I really wish RC would remove the link where it states to use treated lumber.
Just look at a outside deck, the amount green wood shrinks after it dries is insane.
Theres really nothing you can do to stop it from shrinking, no bolts or screws can stop it
Erik

 

[unsane]

Ive never had any issue with shrinking treated. As far as that goes any wood product will expand or shrink due to temp and climate change. Just like a new floor your supposed to climate adjust it by sitting it in the area it will be installed at least 48 hours before installation. The treated may shrink or expand a little, but not enough to do anything crazy. I will say this I would have went with all the same product. I.E. all treated or all non treated premium.

 

[Kreeger1]

YEah, but ACQ lumber, the new standard for treated wood, needs to dryout for 6 months before you stain it or paint it to allow for shrinkage.
Trust me, I know
Erik

 

[black9ice]

FYI when notching and cutting the 4X4's they were treated like crap. IE the "green" was only 1/16"-1/4" at best through the whole piece. I have many "friends" in this industry and a deck plank is treated that is what 5/4" think? I have seen these treated boards dripping green liquid! Saw blades spitting green all over and weight is 10 times that of a normal piece!

These 4X4's are ok!

Again you can park a small car on it and it would not budge. I have no concerns. Enough debating the integrity of the stand. I do respect peoples opinions, and that's all they are, not facts. So no flames or more debating on that subject and lets try to continue my excitement and joy with this whole construction process.

 

[Kreeger1]

We were just trying to help you is all.
Erik

 

[Kreeger1]

And if you new about the green wood and such why did you still risk it with the treated 4x4's
Having them not completely green and soaked as you stated would make me feel better too but still the wrong choice.
General contractor now and in the trades for 13 years.
Enough debating as you stated.
Enjoy your tank

 

[Dubbin1]

Yup we were just trying to help (we are both in construction for a living) and nobody was debating the integrity of the stand. It looks like it could hold up a battle ship.

 

[Kreeger1]

yep, exactlly
Erik

 

[black9ice]

Here is a post example of the treating done to the wood, most were this bad or worse! If I was using this crap outside I would have brought it back and shoved it up the yard boy's you know what!

The 2X4 shelf right under the tank is going to house the pumps for the closed loops. I am looking at 1200gph pumps that draw little watts and OM squirts on each closed loop. All 3 pumps would only be on for 8-12hrs at the same time. The other times the one + sump pump run at night only. Are my pump ideas good enough for some SPS with a 3-5" sand bed? No SD sand as it is to fine, it will be larger sand so it wouldn't blow around as much.

Any ideas here are welcome, as I would like to maybe purchase 1 pump in the very near future to get some water moving!

 

[Kreeger1]

Man thats crazy, I've seen them half treat but thats bad.....well good for you in this case
What type of nails or screws did you use, hopefully acq safe screws. Its some serious copper compound in there, eats through normal screws within 90 days
I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw the displays at lumber yards
Erik

 

[black9ice]

I went to a lowes when I picked up the 2X4 and sole plates, I found stainless exterior grade coated screws made for treated lumber :rollface:

They should be fine, I used a minimum of 3, most times it was 4. The front 4X4's are screwed into the front sole plate. The 2X4 the tank sits on in the front is nailed to the studs. That whole wall wont even budge now :bum:

 

[ga_reefer_guy]

I'll tag along.

 

[sundance1]

Looks like a nice project.Good luck.