Here's a large idea for a club goal.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1058008
This would be years down the road.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1058008
This would be years down the road.
Another club's goal reached
- Thread starter cdbias2
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You mean the one that they put in the beauty shop?
Is that even to much for you to dream of accomplishing with this club? Are you only envisioning cheap frags for yourself or selling coral to people you meet to make a little money? Sounds familiar.
You know, we have the Lions Club that donates their time and money to supply thousands of eyeglasses to needy children.
You have the Moose club that takes care of the elderly.
There are countless other clubs that donate there time to help others and donate something to the public or for those that normally couldn't afford it.
Only the club founders were going to profit from the coral grown in that beauty shop tank. I'm not sure what led to it's failure but I would assume funding.
This is exactly why I suggested a club constitution that sends us in a predetermined path of achieving assigned goals.
It is looking like we may have two very different models of clubs to choose from.
Self serving or truly trying to expand this hobby to others that otherwise would've never come into contact with the beauty that we all so adore.
Oh yeah, about post three. When I read that I see someone mad because they or their buddy didn't get the business. Again about self profit.
It's not going to be me alone that defines where this club is going to go. I'd like for everyone to take a step back and ask yourself why you want this club.
Is that even to much for you to dream of accomplishing with this club? Are you only envisioning cheap frags for yourself or selling coral to people you meet to make a little money? Sounds familiar.
You know, we have the Lions Club that donates their time and money to supply thousands of eyeglasses to needy children.
You have the Moose club that takes care of the elderly.
There are countless other clubs that donate there time to help others and donate something to the public or for those that normally couldn't afford it.
Only the club founders were going to profit from the coral grown in that beauty shop tank. I'm not sure what led to it's failure but I would assume funding.
This is exactly why I suggested a club constitution that sends us in a predetermined path of achieving assigned goals.
It is looking like we may have two very different models of clubs to choose from.
Self serving or truly trying to expand this hobby to others that otherwise would've never come into contact with the beauty that we all so adore.
Oh yeah, about post three. When I read that I see someone mad because they or their buddy didn't get the business. Again about self profit.
It's not going to be me alone that defines where this club is going to go. I'd like for everyone to take a step back and ask yourself why you want this club.
coralreefer
No Pistons
Sigh my last post for the night.
Project reef tank had a long history prior to the beauty shop. At one time it had a custodian that could have made it a source of pride for the club...didn't happen due things out of his control. Thus the beauty shop... we have no idea where/what happened to things we donated to that tank...that's why you see the attitude
nothing was grown in that tank for profit...that I know of... but corals etc that were donated disappeared. Actually IIRC the tank in Jason's care pre-dated the club.
Once bitten twice shy.
Somewhere we've got a post about putting a tank in a hospice facility as a club all agreed that would be awesome we're not at that point yet...but it's a nice dream. We should keep it.
fwiw I don't think anybody posting here is into cheap frags or selling coral to make a little money. If they were they would be posting somewhere else. :uzi:
At least I hope so because that's not my reason for trying this again.:hmm5:
It seems like disappearing coral was always a topic with them. Somebody profited.
I bought some Lunar Eclipse Paly's one day from the shop only to hear 2nd hand in a couple of days how that coral had been stolen and they didn't know where it went. LOL
I'd like to hear more someday about the failure of that club tank.
I bought some Lunar Eclipse Paly's one day from the shop only to hear 2nd hand in a couple of days how that coral had been stolen and they didn't know where it went. LOL
I'd like to hear more someday about the failure of that club tank.
phljess
New member
I can clear this up for you as far as I know. The tank had various coral in it donated from various members of the club. It was located in the Chinese restuarant in St. Albans for a while then they closed. It stayed there for a few weeks without care as Jason was unable to get into the restuarant after it closed to get the tank. I believe most of the coral died and the ones that were left the club tried move to a new venue or give back to the donors. As far as the tank and equipment are concerned I believe most of it was given back to the donors or sold for club donations after it left the tanning salon. But to be honest,I am unsure where every piece of the equipment went as I was not part of the governing body of the club at that time. I would think some of the council members should know this information.
I like the civic discussion you all are having and I hope that it will create a great reef club. But I will warn everyone that it is almost impossible to make everyone happy and there is always turmoil in running organizations. I am sure the club I belong to; has made mistakes in the past but we have tried to correct them. The governing board of our club is made up of hobbyists and they vote on issues concerning the club. I really do not see a need for two clubs with a small population of people in the area.
As far as the statement Cdbias made it is not true. As anyone who contributes to the club can sell livestock or equipment not just the founding members. I too believe selling and trading livestock etc.. should not be the focus of club meetings. However, they do make the club fun to attend and nice for beginners to get nice coral and for more advanced members to pay for tank expenses. I think it is a great idea you all have not to sell frags at the meetings.
carb850
New member
I for one would like to see the clubs co-exist harmoniously. We are in a very sparsely populated area and hopefully people will be able be a member of both if they so wish. However it is obvious we have difference or A.R.S. wouldn't exist at all.
phljess
New member
LtPiper
Active member
Excuse the [profanity]outta me I have not motive or desire to sell or even at this point give anybody any thing. I left the other group after very abusive comments made at me in a chat session and don't care to repeat that or put up with that here. I guess I'll be posting a sale soon to get the hell outta this.
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mcox33
New member
Thanks Coralreefer (Amy)
Perhaps I can clear up some of the questions you all have about Project Reef Tank And
Project Reef Tank 2
First off the orginial Project was The Child of Jason. I believe he and or his wife had worked at the Restrauant at some point in the past.
Jason got permission to and did a very good job of maintaining the tanks there especially Project Reef Tank for a very long time. As Jason had less and less time to maintain the tank, it worked out that I had extra time and sorta took over maintenance with imput from Jason, to the point that I was in the end pretty much the only one maintaining the tank.
I am not saying others did not contribute because they did. And the tank was beautiful. Even the restrauant Owners were invovled and purchased equipment for the tank. I know because Kevin and I went to Jo-Mars and I picked out what we needed and Kevin Paid Barry for it. So some equipment belonged to the restrauant the same as the tanks did.
Kevin and Andy sold the restrauant before anyone realized what had happened. I went to go do the weekly water change one day and they were closed with a sign out front saying who the new owner was and if you had any problems please call the phone number.
I immediately called the phone number they let me in to see the tank, said I did not need to move anything because they would take care of day to day stuff til they reopened under the new name in a few days then I could have access to the tank once again. They assured me (3 guys showed up when I called the number) that they were going to keep the power on and that they knew how to take care of the tank. besides they were not letting anything out of the tank either way.
The next time I actually got to see the tank pretty much everything in it had died. Due to lack of light, water circulation and hard to say what else. The building had the power cut for almost 3 weeks.
A few months 2 maybe 3 the restrauant was out of business and everything was dismantled by or at least the dismantling was supervised by the building management company.
After that I purchased a tank and put it in the Tanning Salon and said if the club wanted to make it into a club tank they were welcome to do so. I got a couple of frags donated and they were starting to grow and things were doing good when due to circumstances beyond my control it became obvious that it was not working out and we dismantled the tank and the club gave some of the frags as door prizes and I believe some were sold to raise funds but I am not sure any were sold they may have all been given back to the original donator unless they said to use it as door prizes or sell to raise club funds.
I hope this clears up some of the questions you all have about Project Reef Tank.
I do still have Jason's home made skimmer in my storage that I need to get back to him. Other than that the equipment was mine either purchased for the tank or spares I had from my tanks at home. Just hand-me-down stuff as I replaced what I had at home and no longer needed it I used it on the Project Tank.
Hope this helps to answers your questions of who made money from Project Reef Tank
I was very sick when I found the Pink Brain Coral, Candy Canes EtC dead in the tank.
Perhaps I can clear up some of the questions you all have about Project Reef Tank And
Project Reef Tank 2
First off the orginial Project was The Child of Jason. I believe he and or his wife had worked at the Restrauant at some point in the past.
Jason got permission to and did a very good job of maintaining the tanks there especially Project Reef Tank for a very long time. As Jason had less and less time to maintain the tank, it worked out that I had extra time and sorta took over maintenance with imput from Jason, to the point that I was in the end pretty much the only one maintaining the tank.
I am not saying others did not contribute because they did. And the tank was beautiful. Even the restrauant Owners were invovled and purchased equipment for the tank. I know because Kevin and I went to Jo-Mars and I picked out what we needed and Kevin Paid Barry for it. So some equipment belonged to the restrauant the same as the tanks did.
Kevin and Andy sold the restrauant before anyone realized what had happened. I went to go do the weekly water change one day and they were closed with a sign out front saying who the new owner was and if you had any problems please call the phone number.
I immediately called the phone number they let me in to see the tank, said I did not need to move anything because they would take care of day to day stuff til they reopened under the new name in a few days then I could have access to the tank once again. They assured me (3 guys showed up when I called the number) that they were going to keep the power on and that they knew how to take care of the tank. besides they were not letting anything out of the tank either way.
The next time I actually got to see the tank pretty much everything in it had died. Due to lack of light, water circulation and hard to say what else. The building had the power cut for almost 3 weeks.
A few months 2 maybe 3 the restrauant was out of business and everything was dismantled by or at least the dismantling was supervised by the building management company.
After that I purchased a tank and put it in the Tanning Salon and said if the club wanted to make it into a club tank they were welcome to do so. I got a couple of frags donated and they were starting to grow and things were doing good when due to circumstances beyond my control it became obvious that it was not working out and we dismantled the tank and the club gave some of the frags as door prizes and I believe some were sold to raise funds but I am not sure any were sold they may have all been given back to the original donator unless they said to use it as door prizes or sell to raise club funds.
I hope this clears up some of the questions you all have about Project Reef Tank.
I do still have Jason's home made skimmer in my storage that I need to get back to him. Other than that the equipment was mine either purchased for the tank or spares I had from my tanks at home. Just hand-me-down stuff as I replaced what I had at home and no longer needed it I used it on the Project Tank.
Hope this helps to answers your questions of who made money from Project Reef Tank
I was very sick when I found the Pink Brain Coral, Candy Canes EtC dead in the tank.
mcox33
New member
no I don't think so, I think it started out as Jason spending enough time there that he did it more for himself with the owner permission. Then it became a chinese restrauant and they let him continue. As for the chinese restrauant The orginal one the owners even bought stuff for the tank.
the employees at the restraunt after it sold. Washed the tank with dawn dish liquid. I watched them do it while I ate dinner there one evening.
It was not and never was a lack of participation. It was simply a lack of access and no power during an ownership change.
When it was the original chinese restrauant we held our meetings in their large meeting room at no charge. Club members added things to the tank every meeting and the tank was looking very nice, and people who came into the restrauant to eat were paying attention and noticing that it was our club tank. The salon just did not have the same type of foot traffic.
the employees at the restraunt after it sold. Washed the tank with dawn dish liquid. I watched them do it while I ate dinner there one evening.
It was not and never was a lack of participation. It was simply a lack of access and no power during an ownership change.
When it was the original chinese restrauant we held our meetings in their large meeting room at no charge. Club members added things to the tank every meeting and the tank was looking very nice, and people who came into the restrauant to eat were paying attention and noticing that it was our club tank. The salon just did not have the same type of foot traffic.
It was not and never was a lack of participation. It was simply a lack of access and no power during an ownership change.
This sounds as if the club tank wasn't a club failure.
The salon just did not have the same type of foot traffic.
due to circumstances beyond my control...
the club gave some of the frags as door prizes and I believe some were sold to raise funds but I am not sure any were sold.
I guess this is where things started going astray.
So,#1 reason for the CRT failure was non-stable businesses for the club tank location?
Any other reasons you'd like to share?
Was stolen/dissapearing coral an issue?
This sounds as if the club tank wasn't a club failure.
The salon just did not have the same type of foot traffic.
due to circumstances beyond my control...
the club gave some of the frags as door prizes and I believe some were sold to raise funds but I am not sure any were sold.
I guess this is where things started going astray.
So,#1 reason for the CRT failure was non-stable businesses for the club tank location?
Any other reasons you'd like to share?
Was stolen/dissapearing coral an issue?
mcox33
New member
The salon just did not have the same type of foot traffic.
due to circumstances beyond my control...
the club gave some of the frags as door prizes and I believe some were sold to raise funds but I am not sure any were sold.
I guess this is where things started going astray.
So,#1 reason for the CRT failure was non-stable businesses for the club tank location?
Any other reasons you'd like to share?
Was stolen/dissapearing coral an issue?[/QUOTE]
All persons who had made donations to the tank were contacted and given the option to receive their donations back or have them be used as door prizes or sold to raise club money for door prizes.
The corals were then used in the way the original owner/donor requested.
I nor anyone else I know ever profitted anything from Project Reef Tank. When the original tank crashed at the restrauant and I managed to get access I did try to save some of the corals, a frogspawn and a candycane but all I managed to do was spike the ammonia in my tank. They did not have enough soft tissue attached to survive but I did try. I already had these same corals at home so that had nothing to do with any of this.
due to circumstances beyond my control...
the club gave some of the frags as door prizes and I believe some were sold to raise funds but I am not sure any were sold.
I guess this is where things started going astray.
So,#1 reason for the CRT failure was non-stable businesses for the club tank location?
Any other reasons you'd like to share?
Was stolen/dissapearing coral an issue?[/QUOTE]
All persons who had made donations to the tank were contacted and given the option to receive their donations back or have them be used as door prizes or sold to raise club money for door prizes.
The corals were then used in the way the original owner/donor requested.
I nor anyone else I know ever profitted anything from Project Reef Tank. When the original tank crashed at the restrauant and I managed to get access I did try to save some of the corals, a frogspawn and a candycane but all I managed to do was spike the ammonia in my tank. They did not have enough soft tissue attached to survive but I did try. I already had these same corals at home so that had nothing to do with any of this.
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coralreefer
No Pistons
PRT v1.0 the end mongol hoards decimate project reef tank
Boy do I miss Jason.
PRT v2.0 the beginning the start
the end
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Boy do I miss Jason.
PRT v2.0 the beginning the start
the end
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