Another option for red bugs

My acros are actually fine I just don't want them in my display. They seem to favor montis as well which is not cool.
 
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Finally got to dip all my stuff that was in QT about 40 total and they all seem to be doing fine. There was a lot of dead stuff on the bottom of the dip bucket and on the bottom of the rinse bucket. Did find one mini brittle star that survived but it seemed to kill everything else.

HTH
 
So is everyone upping the dosage to 10ml/ .5 cups water?

When i dipped a few days ago, I used the .5ml/1cup water and it seemed to knock AWEF off the frags but they were only stunned by this dosage. I am ready to dip again and just wanted to be sure that I can raise the dosage with no problem.

Flamron, sounds like you have had luck with 10ml/ .5cup. Are you using the Beyer Advanced Home Pest with Germ Killer? this is what I have and has a concentration of Sodium O-phenylphenate of .30% and B-cyfluthrin of .05%.

Thanks!
 
cjtice - Here is what I'm using: http://www.buyhardwaresupplies.com/?t=5&m=g1&itemNumber=7269343

Bayer Complete Insect Killer

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Hmmm. looks like concentrations of the likely pest killer ingredient is slightly lower in what I have than what you have.

I will have to mix up some dipping solution this morning using your concentrations and see how a few frags hold up.

Thanks!
 
No problem and good luck!

When they look dead, dump the water and put new water in and see if they come back to life. If they do, then up the dosage a bit until they stop living when you put new water in.
 
In terms of a treatment / quarantine tank, would it work if we use lower concentrations in a dedicated tank and leave corals/frags in there for days/weeks?

I'm thinking of setting up this isolation tank (and by default all new corals/frags/rocks will be quarantined), but instead of dipping and risk the extra stress on the coral, I will just let the new pieces settle for a while.

I guess we don't get the insta-kill with the bugs falling off en-masse, but, would a lower dosage slowly kill them and/or prevent reproduction?
 
In terms of a treatment / quarantine tank, would it work if we use lower concentrations in a dedicated tank and leave corals/frags in there for days/weeks?

I'm thinking of setting up this isolation tank (and by default all new corals/frags/rocks will be quarantined), but instead of dipping and risk the extra stress on the coral, I will just let the new pieces settle for a while.

I guess we don't get the insta-kill with the bugs falling off en-masse, but, would a lower dosage slowly kill them and/or prevent reproduction?

This may work for the red bugs but I doubt if the low concentration will work for the AEFW (if you got any).
 
I tried this method on few of my infected frags.
First I use .5ml on 2 cups - no effect. All bugs stay attached to the skin. Then I up the dose to 1ml - same no effect. Not a single bug flake off. Frags are doing fine but still have all bugs setting on them. I'll check them tomorrow morning.
 
Sometimes they can be attached but dead. If they are not moving or have not moved since you last looked in, then I would say that they are dead.
 
Well, it looks like I now get to join the AEFW club. At least, I think these are limited to the quarantine tank - I hope. I will be vigorously checking acros in the display over the next few months.

I have been using Ivermectin to control Red Bugs, so I don't have any of those - just the flatworms, at this point.

I didn't take any pics of the corals, but this is what I found that fell off about 15 frags/small colonies:

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I used three different mixes, but about the same ratios of concentration:

- 4mL per 1/2 liter or 8 mL per 1 Liter (~0.25 gallons)
- 80mL per 2.5 gallons (~10 Liters)
- 160 mL per 5 gallons (~20 Liters)

Dipping time was about 15 minutes.


This is the product I used:

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I will update if I lose any corals.

Now, I have to deal with the eggs, which I have seen on the corals and frag plugs. I'm thinking of just cutting away the coral from any rocks/plugs and scrubbing any questional specks. Is that what others have done?

Whisperer - I can't thank you enough for posting this information.

Cheers
Mike
 
2nd review after some time, this definitely works, concentrations just need to be kicked up sone more for nasty aefw. We doubled and even tripled the dosage with no I'll effect to any frags.
 
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