Anthias Frustration
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FWIW, I don't find resplendents to be at all picky. Mine, even the tiny ones, ate frozen brine, the small Mysis, and LRS just about from day 1. My issue, primarily with the smaller ones, is that they are very skittish around larger fish and easily spooked - consequently in the display they didn't get enough to eat, regardless of what I offered. As I noted before, if I do get any more, and they're small, I will keep them in my QT for as long as it takes to get them close to two inches.
Where did u get them from (maybe you said already), and please do keep us updated on health (i.e. uronema-ish problems)? Thanks.
Okay, just about the end of Day #3 here and all continues to be going well. All 8 Resplendents [1xMale, 7xFemales] are still alive and are eating! Because of the size of the females, I've decided to hold off on the seafoods like scallops and such and feed from a selection of Calanus, Hakiri Mysis, Reef Nutrition's R.O.E., and liquified LRS's Reef Frenzy. I still have not added any medications because I've yet to see anything out of the ordinary but just in case, I do have some Paraguard, Metroplex, and Furan-2 on stand by as well as some Prazi and Cuprimine. Tomorrow is scheduled the first of the 20% weekly water changes. In retrospect, I wish I'd waited for the larger females to come in but I have to say, so far, so good. Pinching mojo bag with crossed fingers and thanks for all the help.
skeeter2134
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Good Luck with QT. I have 1 Macri, 1 Bartlett, 2 Lyretails, 2 Bimacs and 1 Copper's Anthias in a 125 Reef Tank with a decent amount of flow. Very active fish. i purchased from an LFS in Deer Park with decent results. Im certainly not an expert but in my experience if you put 3 or 4 Anthias into the tank you will lose 1-2 fish. The fish establish there pecking order etc. The worst is definitely the Bartlett. They all turn male. Had 4 and only one left. I haven't had the disease problem experienced here the Bartlett developed pop-eye and was able to use Dr. Tim's Antibacterial Caviar. Food used in the reef Larry's Reef Frenzy, Frozen Krill, Mysis. Calanus (cyclopeeze) does work. Unfortunately the Purple Queens are the hardest.
Maybe not. Mine came yesterday in really rough shape. Two were DoA, a further three died overnight and the remaining three all show signs of body ulceration/uronema. Seems to be a persistent problem with anthias at the moment.
iced98lx
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Agree with ca1ore that somewhere in the supply chain there is a ulceration/uronema issue going on as I've seen bunches show up like that across the internet as I contemplate adding to my anthias group. I'm holding off this season and may try again next time some of my favorites come available.
acesq
Premium Member
I'm not sure whether the ulceration/uronema issue is a temporary supply chain issue or simply a result of the shipping stress which anthias seem particularly affected by.
I purchased a group of 4 Ventralis in August from Reefwise sales which is in the Chicago area. I'm in Los Angeles so the fish made it to LA, were shipped to Chicago, put in a tank for a few days then shipped back to LA. They were all eating well in Chicago and showed no sign of disease. When they arrived to me, one had a red ulceration that quickly turned black. Despite all 4 eating, they all developed the ulceration and died within a week. In December, my LFS picked me up a group of 4 Ventralis directly from Quality Marine. I took them in the transport bag and put them directly into my QT. They all made it through without any treatment and are now in the 340 DT doing very well along with a lone transitioning Ventralis and about 15 other fish.
This experience, coupled with the reports of ulcer/uronema in December leads me to believe that shipping stress may be the critical factor here.
I purchased a group of 4 Ventralis in August from Reefwise sales which is in the Chicago area. I'm in Los Angeles so the fish made it to LA, were shipped to Chicago, put in a tank for a few days then shipped back to LA. They were all eating well in Chicago and showed no sign of disease. When they arrived to me, one had a red ulceration that quickly turned black. Despite all 4 eating, they all developed the ulceration and died within a week. In December, my LFS picked me up a group of 4 Ventralis directly from Quality Marine. I took them in the transport bag and put them directly into my QT. They all made it through without any treatment and are now in the 340 DT doing very well along with a lone transitioning Ventralis and about 15 other fish.
This experience, coupled with the reports of ulcer/uronema in December leads me to believe that shipping stress may be the critical factor here.
That certainly may be, though back last Summer I ordered 13 resplendents over two orders and they all arrived perfectly healthy.
I ordered 2 small female Resplendents around Thanksgiving time and only 1 made it. I've hesitated putting in my order to replace the one because of the many problems people seem to be having with their anthias.
Interested to hear if more reports of success begin. My QT is empty so I may place another order the beginning of March with another resplendent.
Interested to hear if more reports of success begin. My QT is empty so I may place another order the beginning of March with another resplendent.
I agree with Simon. Luck of the draw. I ordered 5 medium females last week, 1 DOA, 4 others are eating and looking good. Also ordered 6 female lyretails, 3 died, 3 look good so far. Just got 3 Lyretail from DD as replacements, all look great, fat and healthy. DD is expensive, but IME with Anthias the fish seem to be significantly healthier.
LobsterOfJustice
Recovering Detritophobe
Throwing my experience out there...
I had been keeping an eye on this thread and knew of the potential issues with anthias the past few months. Last week small ignitus were on sale at LA so I ordered 8. I ordered a bottle of nitrifuracin green the same day in case of issues. I do have experience keeping anthias (lyretail, squarespot, bimac, sunburst). The QT was setup with a dosing pump dosing live newly hatched brine shrimp throughout the day.
All arrived about 1.5". Out of 8, all were dead within a few days:
- 1 DOA, out of the remaining 7 only 2-3 really look good, some of the others showing ulceration on side and poor balance
- 1 dead end of first day (2 were out and eating, the rest hiding)
- 3 dead next day (3 left, 2 were eating, one hiding)
- 2 dead next day (last one has large red blotches on side)
- 1 dead next day
I did see signs of redness and ulceration on the sides of some of the fish. The Nitrofuracin arrived the day I found the last fish dead. If I were to try again, I would dose the NFG immediately upon receipt (wasn't an option this time as I didn't have it on hand) - but I don't think i'm going to try anthias again for a few months.
I had been keeping an eye on this thread and knew of the potential issues with anthias the past few months. Last week small ignitus were on sale at LA so I ordered 8. I ordered a bottle of nitrifuracin green the same day in case of issues. I do have experience keeping anthias (lyretail, squarespot, bimac, sunburst). The QT was setup with a dosing pump dosing live newly hatched brine shrimp throughout the day.
All arrived about 1.5". Out of 8, all were dead within a few days:
- 1 DOA, out of the remaining 7 only 2-3 really look good, some of the others showing ulceration on side and poor balance
- 1 dead end of first day (2 were out and eating, the rest hiding)
- 3 dead next day (3 left, 2 were eating, one hiding)
- 2 dead next day (last one has large red blotches on side)
- 1 dead next day
I did see signs of redness and ulceration on the sides of some of the fish. The Nitrofuracin arrived the day I found the last fish dead. If I were to try again, I would dose the NFG immediately upon receipt (wasn't an option this time as I didn't have it on hand) - but I don't think i'm going to try anthias again for a few months.
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