Any Chronic carbon users out there?

Ahhh....I must have read that too fast. I assumed that's who he was refering to. It sounds like you're well versed on this kinda stuff so why don't you give that guy a call and see if this stuff is worth getting? :-)

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I didn't call them because I want the answers in writing.

Here's my email to them and when the response comes, I'll post it.

Good Afternoon:

Several Reefing Clubs (Reef Aquariums, not the other kind of reefing) have used your GAC. We are interested in possibly setting up a group buy where numerous members pitch in and buy a larger amount of GAC for the savings. We are obviously intending to use this submerged so we aren't interesting in any air-phase GACs.

We have a problem. Many of us run our tanks differently. Some of us run our GAC in canister filters where fast water movement makes the mesh size less important than the hardness/abrasion number. Others run their GAC passively and waterflow characteristics makes the mesh size much more important. I'm sure you can see the quandary we're in.

To help us decide how best to proceed further, please give the following information on your Coal Base Granular as it's possible we might need to purchase several different types:

Is it Bituminous coal, Lignite, or Anthracite coal?
Are the mesh sizes available U.S. Standard or Tyler Standard?
What is the Iodine number?
What is the Molasses number?
What is the Methylene Blue number?
What is the Hardness (or abrasion) number.

Thanks in Advance,

Curt
 
If this stuff turns out to be a go. I would like in on it! I thought I read in the thread you post Kent that they give a better deal buying in 3 bag. But I was more looking for the info from RHF too.
 
Well, it's not going to good thus far. I didn't know whether to contact the East Coast people or the West Coast people so I emailed both.

I didn't get a response yet from one and I got the following from the other one. I didn't check my emails until this morning and my ability to respond to click on the link in the email has expired. (There's apparently a time limit). I'll let you know once I hear from the other email.

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I'm not going to bother trying to email again until Monday because I might time out again.
 
maybe we should call them instead and talk to the guy that was named in that source thread. He could probably email you the info after the conversation...
 
I'll probably do that Monday afternoon. I want to give the other email a chance. They might have taken off Friday, been swamped, etc.
 
Sounds good....We really appreciate you checking this out! Are you going to get in on the order if it ends up going that way?
 
I have quite a bit of Black Diamond on hand right now so I don't need any at the moment. I've just seen MANY of these group buys of GAC go awry and I don't want to see St. Louis club members get ripped off.

I've seen many groups buy large amounts of pelletized carbon (which is vapor-phase/air-phase). Sure it's cheap, but it's also fairly worthless in a water-phase/liquid-phase application. I've also seen many group buys of anthracite....equally useless. I've seen.....yada, yada, yada.

I have had the great privilege of posting with Boomer on many forums over the years. (That's why I have so few RC posts). He's pretty much an expert when it comes to GAC and I've learned a lot from him. I'm a CPA and one of my clients was building an Import/Export business and an airport in Guyanna (South America). There was a dump next to his property which contained the waste product of Coconut processing. Since the product was free, he set up a Cocount-Carbon processing company. The combination of knowing Boomer for so long and the research I did for my client, resulted in me knowing quite a bit about Carbon. BTW....Coconut-Carbon is useless for us with the exception of filtering Chlorine in a RO/DI unit. Otherwise, I could get a huge shipment for free.
 
I was kinda wondering about the low post count- It's nice to see I'm not the only one that's been around this long without being a post whore! :-)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8664505#post8664505 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by inwall75
BTW....Coconut-Carbon is useless for us with the exception of filtering Chlorine in a RO/DI unit. Otherwise, I could get a huge shipment for free.

Indeed this info is interesting at best. How to utilize it to work in our RO/DI units is beyond me though.

I'd like to toss in my 2 cents. I've used many brands of carbon over time & I prefer to use the Black Diamond brand myself. I have done a small amount of research on carbon a long time ago. I also pick up @ a company that works with carbon and questioned some of the employees there about the different types of carbons out there and uses for them. I'm no expert nor do I have solid facts to help the issue here on this thread. I would however heed the advise offered by INWALL75. I try to keep in mind that if something sound just to good to be true...Then it most likely is. Putting some carbons into our tanks could do more harm than help to both invert's as well as the fish themselves, Remember that SW fish absorb the SW through there bodies and anything being added to the water could have bad results. Good luck and hopefully INWALL75 can receive some answers to his e-mails.
 
Good info but I don't think this is a "too good to be true" situation. It's just bulk pricing for the most part without the brand name. I'm all for walking away from it though if it doesn't meet specs....
 
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