Any other camera?

[mojo~]

I cancled the order on the panisonc I had ordered after hearing it wasnt going to work for what I wanted. I just want a point and shoot to ake some nice pics of tanks and corals once in a while. Is there anything else beside the canon G10 that will work. I just hate parting with $425. I was looking at the canon sx10is or the sd 880is or 890is. Will these be ok or am I just going to have the bite the bullet. I was hoping to get closer to $300 for something that I will only use once or twice a month. Thanks again for your help. I went to best buy and looked at them. I do like the g10 just not the price tag. I would much rather get something a little more compact. but you all know more than I in this subject by far. So thanks again.

 

[bmwardo]

Hello Mojo - We have a Canon 870is and I have been very impressed with it as far as P&S cameras go. You can choose a custom white balance in the camera's "manual" mode, or use their aquarium, underwater, or cloudy settings. I have to be honest, I haven't played with it much for taking aquarium photos but for your needs I personally think you will be more than happy with it. I like Canon's P&S so much they have nearly converted me from my Nikon to their DSLRs, I couldn't stand the Nikon P&S I have had or have used in the past!

Also what did this Panasonic not have/do that you were looking for?

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

The question is just exactly what kind of photographs are you wanting to capture, and what level of those photographs quality are you willing to accept? The G10 would IMO do a better job than any other point and shoot for any home aquarium photography. If your tank is 50 feet deep from the front of the glass to the overflow, an SX10 IS might do a better job. If your subject is going to be reasonably close to the lens, then a G10 will run circles around an SX10 IS. You can take a picture of any subject with any camera equipment. You can take a better picture with camera equipment more tailored to what your taking a picture of. Enter the DSLR, you can change lenses depending on your job. A point and shoot tries to be an all in one package, everything about it is specifically built to handle as many jobs as possible without changing your fishing lure, but you sacrifice quality for convenience and ultimately price. The SX10 IS is specifically geared to reach out and touch subjects from long distances i.e. planes, birds, football players. The G10 is geared for more in your face photography i.e. birthday parties, flowers, fish tanks.

 

[mojo~]

I dont dissagree that the g10 is the best. I guess I just want it to look true to life with true color. I cant take anything with my fuji without it looking totally blue. There is no white balance adjusment on mine. So I am looking for something I tank a pic of a coral with and give someone an idea of what I have. I am not looking to take a breath taking image like some I have seen some of you do. I thank you all for your feedback. Thats why I canceled my panisonic was I knew it wasnt what I needed. At least that model. Well again. I know the g10 would be best fit. But I guess I was looking for something that would give good basic performance without breaking the bank.

 

[mojo~]

So the g10 is my only option? If you had to pick a cheaper option their wouldnt be one? hmm. dont get me wrong the g10 is sweet. But its like me buying a corvette and letting it sit in the garage. I could do it but its just not practical for everyday. Well thank you again for your help. Mojo~

 

[BlueCorn]

The SX10 is a good camera. No one is disputing that. The problem is that folks are trying to set the appropriate expectations. Used properly you can create good images with it.

 

[mojo~]

Thanks beerguy. So if you had to pick any camera cheaper than the g10 new you would pick the sx10? out of nikon, panisonic, olympus, ect...?

 

[mojo~]

I was looking at the canon 890 is I know its no g10 but at least if my fiance wanted to use it she could put it in her bag as it is smaller. just seems more practical. no thre is a sx10 and a sx110. the sx10 is the one you are refering to correct.

 

[mojo~]

I am at about$330 for a sx10is or $435 for the g10.

 

[BlueCorn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14103858#post14103858 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mojo46825
Thanks beerguy. So if you had to pick any camera cheaper than the g10 new you would pick the sx10? out of nikon, panisonic, olympus, ect...?

I have a significant Canon bias so I wouldn't be looking at the others.

 

[mojo~]

lol I like canon too. I kick myself for buying this fugi many years back without more research. I have always liked canon or nikon.

 

[Maxxumless]

Personally, I would save up a little more and buy something with a little moor zing. A referb Canon XTi for $300 from Adorama and a starter IS lens. It's a rather smallish camera, has far more potential than a P&S and has a better sensor.

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

The SX10 IS can't shoot RAW. Your pictures will still be just as blue as the camera you already have. The colors you get from your Fuji and the SX10 IS will be VERY similar. The G10 will allow you to correct this where the others fall on their face.

I would rather have a G10 than a Xti and an 18-55. Like I said earlier, the point and shoots are engineered to effectively handle a range of scenarios. The DSLR handles them better IF you have the right lenses for the job. An Xti and 18-55 with no intention of throwing more moeny at it is...well...the pits. I would take an Xti and a 17-55 over a G10 though.

 

[mojo~]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14104778#post14104778 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TitusvileSurfer
The SX10 IS can't shoot RAW. Your pictures will still be just as blue as the camera you already have. The colors you get from your Fuji and the SX10 IS will be VERY similar. The G10 will allow you to correct this where the others fall on their face.

I would rather have a G10 than a Xti and an 18-55. Like I said earlier, the point and shoots are engineered to effectively handle a range of scenarios. The DSLR handles them better IF you have the right lenses for the job. An Xti and 18-55 is...well...the pits.

Thank you for this. I know when I picked up the g10 it was very nice. I have been looking for the raw feature on cheaper cameras and well its kinda hard to ind. a lot of places dont list it.

 

[mojo~]

looks like the sd 890is has raw. but it is $309 still 125 less than the g10. I know I should just stop being a tight wad. MAybe ill just wait a little longer and get the g10.

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

Raw is more of a professional camera trait. To even know what RAW is, you have to have some idea of what you are doing. 99% of people who buy cameras have no idea what they are doing, and RAW would just raise the price of the camera and drive people to a less expensive one without it. So camera companies reserve RAW for cameras designed for people who would use it. In those cameras, it drives the desire for the camera up. In cameras designed for 16 year old girls to take pictures of themselves with their arms stretched out, or in front of the bathroom mirror, RAW drives the desire for the camera down (because it drives the price up).

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

My (biggest) beef with the 890 is the cameras fully automatic nature. Reef tanks are very dynamic subjects. Automatic settings don't always get it wrong, but you can't force the camera to make it right. You can't select your shutter speed, so you may have a lot of problems with blur. You can't select your aperture, which probably isn't too big of a deal with the small sensor concerning DOF. However you can't turn it wide open for extra shutter speed. The ISO will be selectable, but with any point and shoot (even the G10), ISO doesn't hold much real world value. After 400 noise tends to be very bad on a point and shoot camera, unlike a DSLR where it shouldn't even be noticeable yet. With the G10 you can turn it to fully automatic mode and let the camera do its thing. You can also turn it to fully manual mode (or partially manual mode), effectively taking the reins of the horse yourself. If you get the 890 and come to us asking for help because the pictures aren't very clear...we won't be able to help you. Not because we are mean, but because the camera calls all the shots so there just isn't much of anything you can do to change the result.

 

[mojo~]

Thank you much for the input and taking the time out giving me a hand. I have been reading more and more on these everyday. Trying to make a more educated choice in the matter. To me its pretty dry reading, However I know t some its their passion. I am getting a bit more interested by it though. Thanks again

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

Go here:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/com...side&cameras=canon_g10,canon_sd890is&show=all

For a reef tank you NEED imo 2 major things:
"Shutter speed priority", "Aperture priority"
and RAW

There are many other factors that will make on camera better for the job over another camera with those abilities, but put your foot down and make sure that sight lists those features.

You can go to "Buyers Guide"_"Side by Side" to change cameras. Or go to "camera database" to look at cameras one at a time.

Notice that the SD 890 does NOT shoot RAW. I confirmed this just to make sure (check the link below). No RAW, no priority modes, no go. The 890 wouldn't be any better for your tank than what you already have IMO.
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_sd890-review/index.shtml

 

[mojo~]

I a reading this info now. On newegg where I was looking it had raw listed under the 890 I thought. But thank you. This is very helpful. back to reading .....Thanks again for the links.