Anyone dose Vitamin C, Vodka oe sometihng out of the norm?
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The closest thing to "plain" Vit. C I found at Mejier. It will have other ingredients in it to hold the pill together. Its suppose to help Zoa's especially if they arent looking to hot.
Vodka dosing I have looked into I just want to read up on it a little more and Im curious of what the long term results are. Alot of people say its just to increase skimmer performance. Which if your stripping your system of everything, you have to buy Zeovit products to dose to keep everything in balance. Alot of work. I really dont know if its worth it or not, but alot of people ask this question on the forums with very mixed results.
Vodka dosing I have looked into I just want to read up on it a little more and Im curious of what the long term results are. Alot of people say its just to increase skimmer performance. Which if your stripping your system of everything, you have to buy Zeovit products to dose to keep everything in balance. Alot of work. I really dont know if its worth it or not, but alot of people ask this question on the forums with very mixed results.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14769149#post14769149 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
Thanks you!
When I first started dosing vodka I was not using bacteria. Within a month I began to have a red cotton like growth on my rock work and sand bed. I looked around and found that this is a common problem found in some Zeo systems. One of the solutions was to add beneficial bacteria to compete with the harmful bacteria.
So, I stopped dosing vodka for a week and began dosing MB7 during the week that I was not dosing vodka. It has been about two months now and I have yet to see the red cotton appear again.
Also, I am not sure how well the bacteria is feeding my corals but they all extend their feeding tentacles when dosing bacteria.
So far the results have been positive with the bacteria additions. My skimmer pull out much more waste then it had with vodka alone, and I feel that my system is much more stable.
The way I see it, why risk having a harmful bacteria take over your tank? The vodka is going to feed the predominant bacteria in the tank, whether it is good or bad. With the bacteria additions at least you will be less likly to encounter a dino, cyano, or red cotton bloom.
Here's his thread. He has a pretty nice tank
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1436138&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
Yeah, I have been following Sunny's thread for about 5 months now. His tank is definitely nice. There are a lot of tanks out though just as nice that don't dose though. I look at vodka dosing as a way to export nutrients. There are lots of ways to do this (i.e. GFO, macro algae, etc.) I guess you just have to find what works for you.
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Same here Dave. Just like there are people that go a year without water changes, dont run skimmers, ect. and their coral have nice color and growth. There are so many ways to achieve what you want. The hard part is to find what will work for you.
LornaS
livin on the salty side
I tried the vitamin C and didn't notice any noticable changes....I have the pure ascorbic acid that is recommended if anyone wants to give it a try I can bring the bottle to the next meeting and they can try with what is left of the bottle......about 7/8 full.....I think I was dosing 1/2 tsp at the max.....you are welcome to it.....btw...selcon contains a high amount of vitamin c as one of it's ingredients.
SeasonedReefer
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It's supposed to help cure lateral line.
LornaS
livin on the salty side
Selcon is a vitamin/omega fatty acid supplement for your fish and corals. It will make your skimmer go nuts after dosing. I used it when I had bangaii babies to gut load brine shrimp before feeding. I also add it to my home made food.....
Josh I ordered the vitamin c online....it is from here and I have almost a full bottle if you want it.
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=-7152293197697039798
Josh I ordered the vitamin c online....it is from here and I have almost a full bottle if you want it.
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=-7152293197697039798
Pufferpunk
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I know this thread is a little old but I was wondering how the dosing is going. VC works much better than any other carbon dosing, because it also aids in collagen production/repair, which is why it hrlps with melting zoas & also cures zoapox in high doses.
VITAMIN C DOSING CHART
Here are the directions:
Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=10178&at=0
[violation]
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily (down to 2-3 ppm works also). If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 or lower if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
* If you notice an algae bloom (white stringy stuff) or increased scum on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water then pour into overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors. *Keep your Vitamin C bottle in the refrigerator. * If you have a question, ask here. I do my best to check these threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
VITAMIN C DOSING CHART
Here are the directions:
Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=10178&at=0
[violation]
To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily (down to 2-3 ppm works also). If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.
Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.
You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.
Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC
After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.
Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 or lower if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
* If you notice an algae bloom (white stringy stuff) or increased scum on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water then pour into overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors. *Keep your Vitamin C bottle in the refrigerator. * If you have a question, ask here. I do my best to check these threads daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.
Be sure to take some "before" pics!
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