Anyone feed DT's phytoplankton?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8451009#post8451009 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MammothReefer
They don't he got banned, it says moved on by his name.

Yeah that's what I meant. Sorry.
 
phyto and dts are not the same dts i a widely used and i beleive it is live as a bottle left out a day smells way worse than a freshie
 
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But as I said earlier I would prefer preserved to dead and rotting.

THe preserved if uneatted still rots and fouls the water.

I am not a chemist but I used to work in a fish store that had a scope and we checked a few different types of Phyto under it. DTs was some nasty stuff when we looked at it. We looked at multiple samples as well. I hear about others doing the same thing and they have the same results.
ah-hah, interesting.

To say that DTs uses cold hardy species of Phyto is pretty generic.

yes, I generally use generic phrases like that one, because when you start talking about different species of phytoplankton to people they tend to go... HUH?

Are you just trying to defend the brand you use so you justify using it? You seem to have a real dislike for other brands for no apparent reason. You didn't answer what the problem would be with preserved phyto. So why attack other brands with false info? So what is this preservative that Phyto feast uses? Maybe you can inform Gresham as to why his product is inferior.

I dont use it.. did, but dont anymore. mainly because its expensive and my corals are fine without it.

Yes I dislike preserved foods as well as preserved phytoplankton.

Im not ATTACKING your prefered brand, but I can if you would like!
I read the same on DT's site, thats why I posted my original post.


I really dont give a mess about Gresham, I still dont like his product... because its preserved.... no affence to him or his product, but I also dont like colgate toothpaste... I suppose I should appologize to mr. colgate dude too!


geeze, relax, people are just posting their opinions...
And as far as the citric acid thing goes, yes Marine Snow has that, which I dont like, but I know that Phytofeast is preserved with something.. just forget what.

so chilllllllll :rolleye1:
 
Btw there was an article with photos comparing a few different brands of "phytoplankton." I don't remember where it is (maybe someone will chime in with the link?)...but in terms of actual cells... DTs had the most if I remember correctly while marine snow had one of the fewest.
 
Sps corals are carnivores and do not benefit from phytoplankton. In fact, that adds organics to the tank that could serve to inhibit sps growth. Sps's derive only a small percentage of their nutrition from the water column and instead rely on their embedded xooxanthellae algae. Many of the so called coral foods currently marketed have not been tested in controlled settings, and are often are the wrong size for sps which have a very small capture size (measured in microns). Oyster eggs are sufficiently small to qualify. However, stirring the substrate (don't overdo!) which releases bacteria that sps's can consume may be just as good and a heck of a lot cheaper. As far as coloration, very little is known about what influences sps coloration. Some factors are concentrations of xooxanthellae, response to UV radiation etc. What we perceive as a sign of health (polyp extention and bright coloration) may in fact be signs of corals compensating for environmental stress. Much of this may be species dependent responses. We just don't know yet. Don't put a lot of stock into anecdotal observation and certainly not into marketers claims.
 
I am back and already apologized for that post. sorry i did not no children were reading......1000 posts and maybe 2 bad ones like that...not that bad of a proportionality in posts with poor taste...sorry again...enough said
 
I have started my own phtyo with DTs and is gets really dark, must be alive for that to happen

yup!

Oyster eggs are sufficiently small to qualify. However, stirring the substrate (don't overdo!) which releases bacteria that sps's can consume may be just as good and a heck of a lot cheaper.

Oyster eggs are not that expensive, have a HUGE self life and last FOREVER!

I bought a can about 5 months or MORE and am still only half way through... THEY LAST FOREVER!
 
I guess if you don't use them, they can last a long time. I see they have a new larger jar, but $40, no way. Has to be the most expensive food on the market.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8468120#post8468120 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sullyman
I guess if you don't use them, they can last a long time. I see they have a new larger jar, but $40, no way. Has to be the most expensive food on the market.

Got a link? I only find the 1 oz size.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8454081#post8454081 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shawnts106
THe preserved if uneatted still rots and fouls the water.
I think you missed the point. Animals are less likely to eat rotting food so therefore the preserved food would be less likely to go uneaten. Please don't sidestep my points. It makes more work for me having to explain then again.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8454081#post8454081 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shawnts106
ah-hah, interesting.
What is so interesting? That I am not a chemist? That really proves your point doesn't it?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8454081#post8454081 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shawnts106
yes, I generally use generic phrases like that one, because when you start talking about different species of phytoplankton to people they tend to go... HUH?

Try me. You only use generic blanket statements like that because you don't know the facts. Otherwise you would have cleared things up by now. It would help prove your point and not allow me to make comebacks like this.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8454081#post8454081 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shawnts106
.I dont use it.. did, but dont anymore. mainly because its expensive and my corals are fine without it.

Yes I dislike preserved foods as well as preserved phytoplankton.

Im not ATTACKING your prefered brand, but I can if you would like!
I read the same on DT's site, thats why I posted my original post.


I really dont give a mess about Gresham, I still dont like his product... because its preserved.... no affence to him or his product, but I also dont like colgate toothpaste... I suppose I should appologize to mr. colgate dude too!


geeze, relax, people are just posting their opinions...
And as far as the citric acid thing goes, yes Marine Snow has that, which I dont like, but I know that Phytofeast is preserved with something.. just forget what.

so chilllllllll :rolleye1:


Actually I don't use any phyto so to say my prefered brand is wrong. I'm not sure what you are refering to when you said you read it on the DTs site.

People hear that preservatives are bad and they think they are informed. Preservatives are not always bad. They are there for a reason.

I infact have nothing to say about you not liking Colgate/Palmolive. I don't buy their products as well but it is probably for different reasons.

I am relaxed. If you think this is a heated argument you are the one who needs to relax. I just have a disagreement with you. I don't like DTs and you were sold by your DTs sales rep. Nothing wrong with believing what a paid employee of DTs has to say about other products.
 
Wow 40 bucks for oyster eggs...they are 16.99 at my LFS. I have 2 jars and probably will have them for the next year. I feed 2 times one week and 3 the next week, or 5 feedings over 14 days with the skimmer off for 2-8 hours after i put them in. I love em...then again i have been feeding them from the start and because i like my results i wont change it. This doesnt mean that they are having a positive impact and in no way does it mean or prove anything. i guess i could stop feeding the oyster eggs and see what happens but why do it if you like what is happening in your tank?

The marine snow products or bottled(warm preserved phyto) like the TLF or kent phyto products are worthless products...you are just dumping organics in the water IMO, might as well take your skimmer cup and dump it back in the display!

I wont make a normative statement about the other products up for debate..ie...DT's phyto or phyto feast, but the ones i mentioned in the paragraph above i will----they are junk.
 
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