Anyone successfully keeping lettuce nudibranchs?

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Hey guys, I'm fairly new here and even newer to the hobby. I was hoping for some more recent information on keeping lettuce nudibranchs. Everything I've found is at least three years old.

Has anyone gotten these guys eating nori regularly? Do we have an average lifespan on them? Can stressed or decaying ones actually nuke a tank?

Thanks very much!
-Ashley
 
I'm curious about this as well. I got one last week to hopefully knock down some of my HA. I haven't found much info on them.
 
I've had 3 for a short amount of time (4 months) and they seem like an invaluable CUC member to me. When I first got them, I'd always see them munching on whatever algae was visible. Other than occasionally slipping through what I thought was a foolproof critter/fish overflow to the sump they've been great. I haven't added nori or really considered it. Even with the bulk, if not all of my algae gone they seem to be getting enough nutrition off the rocks and sandbed that they are always scouring.

They almost seem like mini, less demanding sea hares from my experience. I've had a sea hare die in my tank in the past with no ill effects so I doubt if these little guys would do anything.
 
No problem. They have become my favorite member of my CUC for sure. Very interesting looking and fun to watch as well as being quite productive.
 
Elysia sp. have a very unique trait, once they reach full size, they reuse the chloroplast of their food (algae) and live off your lighting. They're literally part animal, part plant.

I'm only aware of the ones we get in the hobby eating Bryopsis species and nothing else, but once they reach full size it's like keeping a moving plant alive.. just have good water and good lighting.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/sea-slug-uses-gene-from-algae-to-live-like-a-plant-150204.htm

"Can stressed or decaying ones actually nuke a tank?" Nope. Most slugs are toxic on death, but the dose is hardly noticable and nothing to worry about if you have carbon.. in elysia sp. case, keep in mind that elysia isn't a true nudibranch, it has absolutely no toxins at all.
 
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Yeah I don't really want tossed salad floating around my tank from a shredded nudi :lol:. I'll be screening off my circulation pump and overflow just to be safe.
 
So I've been doing a ton of research on these guys. I found that Joe is right in that they really do prefer eating bryopsis, and are most frequently found on it over other algae species in the wild.

Now for the scary part: how tough is it to intentionally grow bryopsis in my refugium? Is there a decent chance it will spread to my main tank? I would love to have these dudes reproduce successfully and am willing to try a lot of weird things to make them happy. Having that nasty stuff in my aquarium is not one of those things.

One if the best sources I've found so far, if anyone is interested:
http://www.eol.org/pages/452030/details

Thanks again!
 
Well, Bryopsis is a NASTY weed in home aquariums.. it's something all aquarist hope to avoid in home aquariums as unlike hair algae, which has the same spread rate, nothing really controls bryopsis that well.

Bryopsis, like most nuisance algeas.... come and go.. it's something that grows in newer tanks when the system is less stable and holding a lot of phosphates and/or silicants. Having bryopsis means poor water quality as it's thriving in those conditions. If you're tank is pretty established, chances are bryopsis is going to have a die down as it's starving of food. Then you can finally rejoice!... or in this odd contrary scenario struggle to keep it alive.

Let's look at how you CONTROL bryopsis, and consider what conditions you need to avoid:

Bryopsis fades in:
Low Nitrate
Low Phosphates
High magnessium (how I beat mine)
Low Silicates
Protien Skimmer or UV sterilizer

Now look at those, and reverse them..

to grow bryopsis, you would need:
High Nitrates
High Phosphates
Low Magnessium
High Silicates
No Skimmer or UV unit

... Yeah I don't think anybody in the tank would be happy with those conditions. It's kinda beating a dead horse purposely trying to make bryopsis. It's a very difficult thing to do, a noob in the hobby would have an easier time maintaining bryopsis doing things wrong than an expert aquarist would doing things right.

Now, theorectically your nitrates, phosphates, etc aren't harmful while the bryopsis is in the tank.. people always get a reading of 0 nitrates whenever the algea and present and continue denying it's their water quality, when in actuality, bryopsis (and other algea) SOAK up all the nitrates. The lettuce slug is technically in a 0 Phos, 0 Sili, 0 Trates environment, because the high bioload and rapid increases in nitrates is what's feeding the algea and being used up before it's harmful. You can keep lettuce nudis with bryopsis in those conditions despite their fraility for those reasons. However if your tank is already established... triggering a second algea bloom might not be a great idea as it's not sucking up all the nutrients immidiantly until it spreads.. (you'll likely trigger hair, diatoms, cyano, and dinos before bryopsis anyway. Bryopsis is the rarish weed in comparison to the others.)
 
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These seem to be 'seasonally' available, and in many cases do not survive a year in captivity... I would think that a larger one is near the end of it's life cycle
 
You could always start a dedicated tank for them and get some bryopsis from a local reefer having issues with it. Bryopsis also tends to thrive on algae scrubbers if you know anyone who has one of them.
 
Yuck. Yeah I think I'll pass for now. I know my lfs gets in really small guys but I never see a food source provided, so I doubt they'll live long. Since it takes time for them to start photosynthesizing, unfed juveniles doesn't seem like a good way to go. Sucks they like to eat the grossest stuff in the universe.

Thanks for the input everyone!
 
I kept a colony for a couple years. They reproduce readily as long as there is for and the babies are super cute. They live around a year and never overpopulate your tank. Getting Bryopsis to grow first was tricky. They also nibble Penicillus. I got my info off of SeaSlugForum.
 
Awesome, thank you! I'm thinking of adding an 8 gallon refugium onto my main 10 gallon tank and putting them in there. I'll try to get some Penicillus going.

SeaSlugForum is where I've been getting my info too. Such a great resource.
 
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