triggreef
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A few unrelated questions... long post/ fighting off bad ideas...
1) Treating (For Ich) a FOWLR system... I would think you can do it. Without a need to pull out the fish and LR and go fallow? I've read mention about "well you can never use the LR for a reef again"...
Never? Never ever? No matter how much carbon you run through the system? what about for only bullet proof "weed" corals like anthelia or colt coral? You really just cant ever use it again?
I had some cheato in my smaller QT that I just left in when I used cupramine. It turned brown throughout the treatment, then as soon as I water changed and used carbon, it greened right back up.
2) Using Cupramine in a tank with a sandbed and/or LR... would it generally take more to get to the dosage recomended?
3) Been thinking about a total wipe and starting over. (Bleaching it all). I don't care killing everything on the LR. My issue with this is the following. I run Aquaripure filter's which are a sealed item that I can't bleach without destroying. A little backround on them: You dose the container itself with vodka and it houses all the bacteria for nutrient removal. It is set to a slow drip as this is anaerobic bacteria doing the job. So if I were to run bleach through this, it would render it forever useless.
I would assume that Ich should not be able to live going through this filter? If I shut it down, thoroughly cleaned/bleached the pump and intake tube, and set it back up afterwards, could this re-contaminate the tank with ich?
Or am I wrong and the ich could survive the anaerobic conditions of this filter and then reinfect the dt after all that work?
4) If I were to do a wipe out with bleach, I read about letting the bleach go through the system for 24 hrs. turning over the sand in that time, then full water change. Well being in no hurry if the fish are stuck in QT anyway, How about just letting the bleach keep going for say a week or so? And it generally would just dissipate anyway on it's own wouldn't it?
This all stems from already going fallow, successfully treating the fish, and returning them to the dt after an 8 week fallow period. I know 4 weeks too short, I was impatient and rolled the dice. I'm not yet sure if they have been reinfected with ich since their return to the dt. I saw a few spots on a clown, but they were gone within hours and a puffer in there with him has been stirring the sand like nobodies business so it may have been just pieces of sand.
If they are indeed infected again, I didn't do the best fallow in the first place. Not long enough, and I added snails and several corals that could have introduced ich as well.
I'm getting tired of looking at fish tanks with no fish. I need another way to do it than wait 12 weeks. If I need to do anything. My fingers are still crossed. :sad2:
1) Treating (For Ich) a FOWLR system... I would think you can do it. Without a need to pull out the fish and LR and go fallow? I've read mention about "well you can never use the LR for a reef again"...
Never? Never ever? No matter how much carbon you run through the system? what about for only bullet proof "weed" corals like anthelia or colt coral? You really just cant ever use it again?
I had some cheato in my smaller QT that I just left in when I used cupramine. It turned brown throughout the treatment, then as soon as I water changed and used carbon, it greened right back up.
2) Using Cupramine in a tank with a sandbed and/or LR... would it generally take more to get to the dosage recomended?
3) Been thinking about a total wipe and starting over. (Bleaching it all). I don't care killing everything on the LR. My issue with this is the following. I run Aquaripure filter's which are a sealed item that I can't bleach without destroying. A little backround on them: You dose the container itself with vodka and it houses all the bacteria for nutrient removal. It is set to a slow drip as this is anaerobic bacteria doing the job. So if I were to run bleach through this, it would render it forever useless.
I would assume that Ich should not be able to live going through this filter? If I shut it down, thoroughly cleaned/bleached the pump and intake tube, and set it back up afterwards, could this re-contaminate the tank with ich?
Or am I wrong and the ich could survive the anaerobic conditions of this filter and then reinfect the dt after all that work?
4) If I were to do a wipe out with bleach, I read about letting the bleach go through the system for 24 hrs. turning over the sand in that time, then full water change. Well being in no hurry if the fish are stuck in QT anyway, How about just letting the bleach keep going for say a week or so? And it generally would just dissipate anyway on it's own wouldn't it?
This all stems from already going fallow, successfully treating the fish, and returning them to the dt after an 8 week fallow period. I know 4 weeks too short, I was impatient and rolled the dice. I'm not yet sure if they have been reinfected with ich since their return to the dt. I saw a few spots on a clown, but they were gone within hours and a puffer in there with him has been stirring the sand like nobodies business so it may have been just pieces of sand.
If they are indeed infected again, I didn't do the best fallow in the first place. Not long enough, and I added snails and several corals that could have introduced ich as well.
I'm getting tired of looking at fish tanks with no fish. I need another way to do it than wait 12 weeks. If I need to do anything. My fingers are still crossed. :sad2:
