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robsmith32
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yes, the collection cup.
added anything recently?
or have any die-off?
doublecheck all your ph/ammonia/nitrite/nitrates to make sure didn't have a spike.
added anything recently?
or have any die-off?
doublecheck all your ph/ammonia/nitrite/nitrates to make sure didn't have a spike.
CaptainCoral
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Alrighty, I have the ev180 running on my 75gal tank now. After being disappointed with the panworld40, I tried the Eheim 1260 I had bought for my return pump. It was not my intention to go against the advise of those saying to use the 1262, this is just how it worked out for me to swap the two pumps that I had.
Here's a shot I took about 15 to 20 mins after hook up.
Here's a shot of the short tubing hook up. If you look close, you can see where I broke a small piece of plastic from the Eheim outlet thread. My options were to file/sand it flush with the top of the pump and use my gasket fitting, or use lots of teflon tape on a plain 3/4" threaded nipple. I chose the latter.
Here's a shot of my tank/bioload which has been suffering lately with a DIY skimmer. I'm expecting to see the cyanno melt away now.
Here's a shot I took about 15 to 20 mins after hook up.
Here's a shot of the short tubing hook up. If you look close, you can see where I broke a small piece of plastic from the Eheim outlet thread. My options were to file/sand it flush with the top of the pump and use my gasket fitting, or use lots of teflon tape on a plain 3/4" threaded nipple. I chose the latter.
Here's a shot of my tank/bioload which has been suffering lately with a DIY skimmer. I'm expecting to see the cyanno melt away now.
robsmith32
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Is that filterfloss to the right of the pump?? I'm guessing that is to keep the bubbles out the pump input.
Hmm, i have to question aqua c, having mag 5 suggested for the ev120 and saying that 1260 is great for the 120 but underpowered for the 180.. that pic proves its not underpowered.
In 20 minutes?? Must have some serious DOC in there.
i have to think it wierd the panworld didn't work for it. Just doesn't seem right.
I can't wait to get my other eheim in to replace the return pump.
The LG isn't loud, but it isn't quiet like the eheim.
Heck, compared to the eheim the sedra that is on my g3 is noisy.
Hmm, i have to question aqua c, having mag 5 suggested for the ev120 and saying that 1260 is great for the 120 but underpowered for the 180.. that pic proves its not underpowered.
In 20 minutes?? Must have some serious DOC in there.
i have to think it wierd the panworld didn't work for it. Just doesn't seem right.
I can't wait to get my other eheim in to replace the return pump.
The LG isn't loud, but it isn't quiet like the eheim.
Heck, compared to the eheim the sedra that is on my g3 is noisy.
CaptainCoral
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Yeah, that is one of those micron filter socks catching tank drain water. I have it next to the skimmer pump to improve skimmer performance. I also have one wrapped around my skimmer exit gate. (I don't use baffles on my DIY sumps, I like to keep them simple)
FWIW, the panworld has turned out to be a marvalous pump for the return. It's even quieter than the Ehiem. (It creates a much lower frequency hum in the sump)
Leopardshark
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Captain,
How are the panworld 40 and eheim 1260 rated?
I donÃ"šÃ‚´t know why the panworld wouldnÃ"šÃ‚´t work for your skimmer.
Man you have a nice tank! those softies are really nice.
Can you share a pic of the 180?
How are the panworld 40 and eheim 1260 rated?
I donÃ"šÃ‚´t know why the panworld wouldnÃ"šÃ‚´t work for your skimmer.
Man you have a nice tank! those softies are really nice.
Can you share a pic of the 180?
robsmith32
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How would you come to that conclusion?
the air is being drawn in thru the ballvalve on the skimmer, not from the pump input.
CaptainCoral
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Here's the specs on the 1260 pump.
Here's the specs on the panworld40.
PremiumAquatics recommends the panworld40 for both ev120 and ev180, and that's why I bought the pump. It has good pressure, but too low of flow. I could have gotten foam, if I wanted to wait (kind of like how a mag7 works with this skimmer....barely and with much patience)
I have 5 different colored sinularia, 4 different color GSP, shrooms, clove polyps, etc. Almost everything brown, turns green in here and all my fish are hiding.
The 180 is much younger, has almost all DIY rock, less corals, and not as pretty yet.
I'm going to take it slow with this tank, because I'm looking for a house, and a move is certain. (I'll still add some frags this summer though)
Here's the specs on the panworld40.
PremiumAquatics recommends the panworld40 for both ev120 and ev180, and that's why I bought the pump. It has good pressure, but too low of flow. I could have gotten foam, if I wanted to wait (kind of like how a mag7 works with this skimmer....barely and with much patience)
I have 5 different colored sinularia, 4 different color GSP, shrooms, clove polyps, etc. Almost everything brown, turns green in here and all my fish are hiding.
The 180 is much younger, has almost all DIY rock, less corals, and not as pretty yet.
I'm going to take it slow with this tank, because I'm looking for a house, and a move is certain. (I'll still add some frags this summer though)
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robsmith32
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Waxxieman, i just noticed something on that pic. YOur jg valve for ca reactor or ozone, looks to be open. put a valve on it and close it or just stop it up somehow.
robsmith32
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ah, i thought that 40 was the closer to the iwaki 30, apparently that is the 50px that would be needed.
CaptainCoral
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That's a great call, and I also concur. (unless that is a plug in there, my vision is not what it used to be.)
Waxxiemann
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That's a peice of quarter inch tubing filled with silicone acting as a plug. I read that it can be a pain to adjust the air w/ the JG fitting open, so yes, thats a plug.
By the way, with the help of you guys and Steve from AquaC, my skimmer is about 90 % precent at the sweet spot. I found that patience is the most important thing and when I thought that the skimmer was not set optimally, it actually was. Go figure.
Eventually it just pushes the junk out by itself, I thought it had to be set perfectly to do so, but this is not the case. I got about a half a cup of nasty smelling green stuff out today and I anticipate that the color/smell will only worsen (get better?) as I add more bio load.
Thank you guys for all the help. I'll post up some pics once I add more rock/fish/corals.
:fun4:
By the way, with the help of you guys and Steve from AquaC, my skimmer is about 90 % precent at the sweet spot. I found that patience is the most important thing and when I thought that the skimmer was not set optimally, it actually was. Go figure.
Eventually it just pushes the junk out by itself, I thought it had to be set perfectly to do so, but this is not the case. I got about a half a cup of nasty smelling green stuff out today and I anticipate that the color/smell will only worsen (get better?) as I add more bio load.
Thank you guys for all the help. I'll post up some pics once I add more rock/fish/corals.
:fun4:
CaptainCoral
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Welcome to AquaC enlightenment :idea: and being in "the know"
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Nathan
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Speaking of enlightenment...
This thread is really good, BUT it is too long.
I think right about now we need a recap, along with a collection of photos of how exactly to operate an AquaC skimmer for maximum optimization.
Pictures speak a thousand words with this skimmer, so maybe someone who is "in-the-know" could post sort of a summary of the main points which have been made.
For me, the most valuable pieces of information are:
1. Adjust the zero-bubble level to be 2-3mm below the top of the box in the main tube.
2. Adjust the "burst point" of the bubbles to be about one third to half way up the main tube.
3. Throttle back on the air intake to make the bubbles as small as possible.
4. Allow foam to form in the main tube.... because... "Eventually it just pushes the junk out by itself".
Anyway, maybe someone with more experience could post the main points again and perhaps if they are really ambitious they could steal some images from posts earlier on and repost them.
Oh, and then we should DEMAND that AquaC include the synopsis along with the photos in their user guide, since to be honest their user guide is so uninformative and generic that it's no wonder that most people think these skimmer are a piece of crap. If they had a proper user guide and explanation on how to operate one of these skimmers correctly, then their business would increase because you would see less people posting about how they hate their AquaC because it is "impossible to 'dial in'". <--Anyway, just venting...
Thanks!
-Nathan
This thread is really good, BUT it is too long.
I think right about now we need a recap, along with a collection of photos of how exactly to operate an AquaC skimmer for maximum optimization.
Pictures speak a thousand words with this skimmer, so maybe someone who is "in-the-know" could post sort of a summary of the main points which have been made.
For me, the most valuable pieces of information are:
1. Adjust the zero-bubble level to be 2-3mm below the top of the box in the main tube.
2. Adjust the "burst point" of the bubbles to be about one third to half way up the main tube.
3. Throttle back on the air intake to make the bubbles as small as possible.
4. Allow foam to form in the main tube.... because... "Eventually it just pushes the junk out by itself".
Anyway, maybe someone with more experience could post the main points again and perhaps if they are really ambitious they could steal some images from posts earlier on and repost them.
Oh, and then we should DEMAND that AquaC include the synopsis along with the photos in their user guide, since to be honest their user guide is so uninformative and generic that it's no wonder that most people think these skimmer are a piece of crap. If they had a proper user guide and explanation on how to operate one of these skimmers correctly, then their business would increase because you would see less people posting about how they hate their AquaC because it is "impossible to 'dial in'". <--Anyway, just venting...
Thanks!
-Nathan
Leopardshark
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7329653#post7329653 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Nathan
Speaking of enlightenment...
This thread is really good, BUT it is too long.
I think right about now we need a recap, along with a collection of photos of how exactly to operate an AquaC skimmer for maximum optimization.
Pictures speak a thousand words with this skimmer, so maybe someone who is "in-the-know" could post sort of a summary of the main points which have been made.
For me, the most valuable pieces of information are:
1. Adjust the zero-bubble level to be 2-3mm below the top of the box in the main tube.
2. Adjust the "burst point" of the bubbles to be about one third to half way up the main tube.
3. Throttle back on the air intake to make the bubbles as small as possible.
4. Allow foam to form in the main tube.... because... "Eventually it just pushes the junk out by itself".
Anyway, maybe someone with more experience could post the main points again and perhaps if they are really ambitious they could steal some images from posts earlier on and repost them.
Oh, and then we should DEMAND that AquaC include the synopsis along with the photos in their user guide, since to be honest their user guide is so uninformative and generic that it's no wonder that most people think these skimmer are a piece of crap. If they had a proper user guide and explanation on how to operate one of these skimmers correctly, then their business would increase because you would see less people posting about how they hate their AquaC because it is "impossible to 'dial in'". <--Anyway, just venting...
Thanks!
-Nathan
I agree with you.
One point I would add to yours is
5.- Get yourself a bigger pump than the recommended by AquaC.
CaptainCoral
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Hehe lol....Yeah Nathan, venting is as much an important aspect of daily living as finding enlightenment. Much like yin and yang.....one does so ever infrequently come without the other.
Demanding is on a whole other level altogether, and even the higher powers bite their lip on this one.
It is a great idea to have a recap though, and I commend that Idea!
FWIW, half of what I've written was "through the din of my ADD"
I now believe that the water height determines the bubble size more than the air choke. Once your water height is set to make the smallest bubbles possible, then you can decide how much air to use, (BTW, this is where you decide to run the skimmer wet or dry, and neither is right or wrong, it's up to your needs/desires)
Another FWIW....if you're running AquaC's recommended pump, and it's smaller than what is commonly recommended here, you still have small bubbles being made, just not in the quantities and consistancy of running a larger pump with choked air.
Demanding is on a whole other level altogether, and even the higher powers bite their lip on this one.
It is a great idea to have a recap though, and I commend that Idea!
FWIW, half of what I've written was "through the din of my ADD"
I now believe that the water height determines the bubble size more than the air choke. Once your water height is set to make the smallest bubbles possible, then you can decide how much air to use, (BTW, this is where you decide to run the skimmer wet or dry, and neither is right or wrong, it's up to your needs/desires)
Another FWIW....if you're running AquaC's recommended pump, and it's smaller than what is commonly recommended here, you still have small bubbles being made, just not in the quantities and consistancy of running a larger pump with choked air.
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Nathan
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I'll add another point too:
6. If you use a 90o elbow to eliminate the noise, make sure that you have some kind of air hole in it, or make sure that your sump level always remains the same; otherwise it will be 100% impossible to adjust this skimmer.
I probably could have phrased that better, but it's late and I'm tired and need some ZZZZzzzz..... zzzzz.... zzzz...
-Nathan
6. If you use a 90o elbow to eliminate the noise, make sure that you have some kind of air hole in it, or make sure that your sump level always remains the same; otherwise it will be 100% impossible to adjust this skimmer.
I probably could have phrased that better, but it's late and I'm tired and need some ZZZZzzzz..... zzzzz.... zzzz...
-Nathan
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