elviraveloz
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Aquaforest products- Component 1+2+3+
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MichaelW
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I started the dosing of component 1+ 2+ 3+ a few days ago. I started at 180ml per day of each. I think I am now close to the correct dosage at 230ml of each. My levels have dropped of course while trying to find the correct dose so will be bringing them back up with standard buffers etc. I think I may have to dose a little more but not much to maintain my desired parameters.
It is quite a lot of dosage compared to what I was doing before so the containers won't last long. Next time I will buy the bulk powders and components strong and mix a large amount myself.
It is quite a lot of dosage compared to what I was doing before so the containers won't last long. Next time I will buy the bulk powders and components strong and mix a large amount myself.
Magem
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MichaelW
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I have ordered and received all products needed to make version 2 above, however the magnesium buffer was back ordered and will not arrive for a while. My question is would it be fine to make the balling solutions just without the magnesium and use this untill the mag buffer arrives? Or would it cause a problem?
Aquaforest
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If You have Components1+2+3+ for now so I recommend to wait for everything. If You haven't anything to dose then You Can prepare Balling without magnesium.
Regards,
Aquaforest
nemodan
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As You Can see in our Guide
There is few ways to dose Macro and Micro:
1 - Ca Plus, KH Plus, MG Plus (macro) + Component A, Component B, Component C(micro)
2 - Calcium, Magnesium, KH Buffer, Reef Mineral Salt ( Macro) + Components Strong (micro)
3- Calcium, Magnesium, KH Buffer, Reef Mineral Salt ( Macro) + Kalium, Iodum, Fluorine, Iron, Strontium, Micro E (micro)
4 - Component 1+2+3+
Every ways working the same - but Aquarist should find comfortable products for self
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Aquaforest
Hi
From the quoted posting I understand that IF I USE COMPONENT A + B + C with my dosing method I will be near with what it is achieved if I use the Balling system 1+2+3........ correct ?
I am using B-ionic (1 and 2) for dosing. It is an equilibrated 2 part dosing system (alk and Ca).
I do have a DOS Neptune dosing system that has only 2 pumps. Buying a new dosing system with 3 pumps it will be expensive (~ $300-$450).
Also my system is equilibrated,as it is today in Ca, Alk and Mg. I replenish Mg with 15% Water Changes every weekend.
Being said all these, I am still having issues to keep a nicely loaded tank with SPS.
I am missing something that my WC are not able to replenish enought. I am using Reef Crystal Salts.
So, I thought that instead of jumping to the Balling system and expend a lot of money in new dosing pumps, I can add the components A, B and C and continue with my dosing system.
What do you think ?
Thank you !!
Daniel
mhucasey
Acros & wieners, oh my!
Daniel, B-ionic already has the micronutrients in it, I wouldn't add the components strong to them. If you wanted to switch over to the Components you mix up Calcium and Magnesium Chloride(part 1), Sodium Carbonate(part2), and "Reef Mineral Salt"(Sodium chloride free salt)(Part 3).
The components are added to these- Component A&B go into Part 1, Component C into Part 2, Component D into part 3. This is classic full Balling.
If you wanted to try this just get one BRS 1.1ml/min Peristaltic pump, they are about 80 bucks. You plug it directly into an Apex outlet. No need to buy a whole new Three head doser.
I cant stress enough, don't double up with B-Ionic trace elements! I used B-ionic in the beginning and I saw many improvements in health when I gave up on it and went to classic Randy's recipe 2-part.
nemodan
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Thank you Matt for your answer and advice !!!!
For more that I tried I couldn't fine any reference of what it is in the B-ionic bottles , beside bicarbonate and Ca. I hate myself for not being able to find any details about the B-ionic.
As I was reading this thread I though that I could manage to add once a week the A, B and C components to the tank, to supplement whatever the Reef Crystal mix isn't able to supplement.
My LFS suggested me to add the "strong components A,B and C " to my B-ionic and I said NO !!!! (That was 2 weeks ago).
Reading this thread I realized that there are also big bottles of the components A, B and C , that is suggested to be used at least once a week. I said to myself " I can do that, when I am back home, once a week, I can add a little if those components to the tank manually".
If I understand correctly Matt, you do NOT SUGGEST to add components A, B and C in ANY of the suggested ways. OR you are refering only to the "component strong ".
In other words : if I add, once a week, as suggested by AF, manually, components A, B, C to my tank, could be an issue because I am already using b-Ionic that have some of those components ?
Cheers ...... and THANK YOU !!!! As always for you impute.
Daniel
BTW: I have 2 BRS dosing pumps, that I replaced with the DOS Apex system, connected and programed to my Apex, and not not in use now. I am afraid of using one of them to pump the same volume as the DOS because at the end I will not be sure ever if the 3 pumps are dosing what they have to dose.
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mhucasey
Acros & wieners, oh my!
AFs Naming is confusing, that is part of the problem.
B-ionic 2-part contains the same elements that are in "Components A, B, and C" I wouldn't dose them together with B-ionic as you would be doubling up on trace elements.
"Components Strong A, B, C, and K(I said D above, its K)" are used to make up classic 3-part Balling.
I find the BRS pumps to be extremely reliable and accurate, you would obviously dose for a different duration than the DOS pump. You can check the accuracy of the BRS pump by letting it pump into a container for 10 minutes and then measuring the volume and dividing by 10.
B-ionic is supposed to be amazing stuff that will do it all with only two parts. I did not find that to be true. For the cost savings and stability I much preferred Baking soda and Calcium Carbonate(Randy's 2-part).
Aquaforest
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Hello,
In our display Tank we dose Component1+2+3+ with Calcium Reactor but this is Big tank with Big corals colonies.
Do You need to dose Ca,KH,Mg extra?
Hi.
Thank you for your response!
Inside the first chamber of the reactor, I use the coral grave (by KZ).
Inside the second chamber (the small on), I use magnesium media (dolomite by KZ).
I hold the ph level inside the calcium reactor on 6.5.
My parameters are:
Ca 410 (normal)
dKh 8.3 (slightly high)
Mg 1245 (low)
If I try to decrease the dKh level, my ph drops down to 7.6 (day) and 7.4 night. Then the low ph stimulating the algae.
So I have the several questions for you, please:
1. Which media do you recommend to use in my calcium reactor?
2. What is preferable to run Balling or Calcium reactor, in case the both SEPARATELY can supply the demands of my SPS corals?
3. Can I use your Component1+2+3+ instead my calcium reactor and continue to run the Zeovit system? I mean, can it be the overdose or collision using the Component1+2+3+ elements with ZeoVit products?
Thank you!
Alex.
Aquaforest
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First of all You should know what contains Your products of another brand then AF.
We explain You everything of our products but it will be good to know what are You dosing to Your tank to not double dosage.
If Your Calcium reactor fill doesn't contains microelements You can dose that separately:
Iodum, Valium, Fluorine, Iron, Micro E, Strontium or by Component A, Component B, Component C,
I You will choose balling You Can find few ways to dose macro (Ca,KH,MG) and Micro:
Component 1+2+3+ contains macro (Ca,KH,MG) and Microelements. This is full set - ready to use formula for growth and coloration.
We explain You everything of our products but it will be good to know what are You dosing to Your tank to not double dosage.
If Your Calcium reactor fill doesn't contains microelements You can dose that separately:
Iodum, Valium, Fluorine, Iron, Micro E, Strontium or by Component A, Component B, Component C,
I You will choose balling You Can find few ways to dose macro (Ca,KH,MG) and Micro:
Component 1+2+3+ contains macro (Ca,KH,MG) and Microelements. This is full set - ready to use formula for growth and coloration.
Aquaforest Rep question please:
I'm using Component ABC, recommended dose divided into daily amount fed via doser - dosing 1ml/day (7ml/week) above recommended level.
I'm still having to add 4ml/day of iodide(Aquavitro) to maintain a 0.04-0.06 reading.
This makes me think the others elements are perhaps being dosed to low also.
To properly set correct dosing of ABC would iodide be a ok canary to use?
eg: raise amount i am dosing until the ABC alone gives me a more consistent 0.04-0.06 Iodide reading?
For Salt + Alk/Ca/Mg i'm using Aquavitro line,No AF agents down here & the salt is too heavy/expensive to import.
I'm using Component ABC, recommended dose divided into daily amount fed via doser - dosing 1ml/day (7ml/week) above recommended level.
I'm still having to add 4ml/day of iodide(Aquavitro) to maintain a 0.04-0.06 reading.
This makes me think the others elements are perhaps being dosed to low also.
To properly set correct dosing of ABC would iodide be a ok canary to use?
eg: raise amount i am dosing until the ABC alone gives me a more consistent 0.04-0.06 Iodide reading?
For Salt + Alk/Ca/Mg i'm using Aquavitro line,No AF agents down here & the salt is too heavy/expensive to import.
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Just to add to that my Strontium also comes in low @ 0.90 meq/L
Use salifert tests for both that & I2
Aquaforest
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No. Do not remove water. This is not rising salinity.
Aquaforest
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Hello,
Component C contains iodine also so be careful to not overdose with another products.
You Can rise any micro by ComponentABC.
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Aquaforest
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