Aquaworld

[Misled]

Stopped by today, (Jamie, that your flame angel???). Anywho, I set this:



up to put some stuff in while tearing down, re-painting and re-carpeting. Wanted a few frags to see how things would do in it.

Anyway, the store is really looking good. There are quite a few changes, but the six frags for 25 bucks is still there. Grabbed 12 frags. Really like the big reef they moved to the back.

 

[kevinl]

looking good!
Keep me in mind when your ready.

 

[kevinl]

Jeff does have it looking nice at his store, his new display is looking great!

 

[Misled]

Thanks Kevin. I'll see how these look in a week or so.

Yea, I'd really like a few things he has in the dt. My wife finally got where I'm going with the new tank by looking at Jeff's.

 

[JaimeAdams]

Not my flame angel. Yeah the tank is pretty nice for sure.

 

[acer]

I have to get down there its been months- before I even got my new tank up and running.

 

[Misled]

He has 3 inch arowanas for thirty bucks. I really want to set up a freshwater again!!!!

 

[RIP Sebastian]

Arowanas? Aren't those illegal in the states?

 

[Misled]

Never heard that. I kept them for years back in the fresh days. They're always available but not at 30 bucks!!!!

 

[Misled]

Nick, I remember your feelings of Aquaworld from a past thread. If you don't like a store that's fine and I don't have a problem with you saying so, but if your post is an attempt to start something, you should know I won't put up with it. I searched the web and there is nothing about arowanas being illegal anywhere. If you want to say something like that, look for proof to post with it please.

 

[loui]

The king of DIY on youtube has Arowanas. He has a pretty big following, I am sure he would not be able to keep them if they where illegal.

 

[Misled]

About 35 years ago there was a store in Wilkinsburg on wood street that kept them in a 220 at the front of the store. Some were over three feet long.

 

[krshlln300]

I really do not agree with Aquaworld- anyone willing to sell animals such as alligators in my opinion should not be in business. not to mention they really do not keep a majority of their animals in any sort of "Comfort" at all...

 

[acer]

I believe the Gators are gone and have been for some , the store seems to have changed. To each their own, but not allowing a place to change and giving it a second chance seems a mistake. I always felt bad for the Gators.

 

[Misled]

anyone willing to sell animals such as alligators in my opinion should not be in business.

Why???

 

[krshlln300]

Alligators should never be permitted in the ownership of the general public. Frankly there are numerous exotic animals I have seen sold in the pittsburgh area I believe should be banned as it would be grossly unfair to the animal. Alligators and many other exotic animals (fish included) require very specific and much larger habitats to mimic their natural habitats to be comfortable. I believe the people selling such animals should be held under scrutiny for doing such a major disservice to nature. I also believe this to be true with respect to certain reef animals as well for certain species... I do not think this is true for all species just specific exotics that are either A) potentially deadly or very dangerous to the local habitat if released (Many people release after they realize their mistakes... thus partially the cause of the snakehead issues up north and the carp issues in the misssissippi river) or B) endangered to some degree and likely acquired through some illegal or at very least shady means that would likely have displaced the animal from it's native habitat.

I do not currently nor will ever support such "Shops". I believe in only purchasing locally raised or farm raised animals to preserve nature.

 

[Misled]

I won't say much about what your post because it's what you "believe" and not really what's legal. That's fine, but it's also fine that others believe something different. The thing is, raising, breeding, selling, and buying alligators is perfectly legal. They are also captive bread and raised. This is also something done quite a few years ago. The store has changed quite a bit since then. I would also say Aquaworld has less fish in more tanks than most.

 

[acer]

Hmm.. some how my post a word = "time" got left out. It was supposed to read the gators have been gone, and have been for some time. LOL . Kris where ya been?? Hope that baby is doing well.

Just a thought: I don't think Snakeheads were ever brought here for pets. From what I read they were brought here illegally to be farmed in ponds for the Asian food markets, and they "got out". But, I agree that the python issues in the everglades, and a few other "exotic reptiles" that are causing all kinds of issues in Florida are the direct result of pet owners releasing the animals.

that said- not sure that a local shop here in Pittsburgh has much of anything to do with those issues.

 

[JaimeAdams]

If you don't like a store then by all means do not shop there. Everyone is welcome to their opinions about where they like and do not like to shop. If I or anyone else wants an alligator they can very easily go buy one online. I do think that I did see one at Aquaworld recently, but if someone really wants one they will get it one way or another. The same goes for other "exotic" pets. It is not on us to make laws regarding the keeping of such animals. I agree that it is a shame when people impulse buy such creatures. There are people who buy those animals and keep them in proper set ups and who are we to judge what someone else wants to do. I knew a guy in the south hills who had an alligator that he had at that point for 40 years. The entire basement of his house was the habitat for his gator. I haven't been in touch with the guy in years, but I imagine that he probably still has the alligator.

I'm sure most of us hate mistreatment of animals in any manner.

Does this particular store keep their animals any differently than any other local stores? I don't really see it. I may be wrong, but I can't think of anything that really jumps out at me.

They always treat me well and they treat the club well. They offer club members a discount and donate to our raffle and frag workshop whenever we ask. The wife and I were just there this evening. I bought a frag of a chalice out of his display tank and the wife bought a rock flower anemone. I go there mostly for coral and they always have a decent selection and the tanks look good as do the coral.

Some people like some stores and hate others and that list usually changes depending on the person. I have store that I prefer to shop at so I do and others I don't. If you don't like a store then don't shop there. Everyone is welcome to their opinions, but if you want to trash talk make your own thread.

 

[CynicalReefer]

Alligators should never be permitted in the ownership of the general public. Frankly there are numerous exotic animals I have seen sold in the pittsburgh area I believe should be banned as it would be grossly unfair to the animal. Alligators and many other exotic animals (fish included) require very specific and much larger habitats to mimic their natural habitats to be comfortable. I believe the people selling such animals should be held under scrutiny for doing such a major disservice to nature. I also believe this to be true with respect to certain reef animals as well for certain species... I do not think this is true for all species just specific exotics that are either A) potentially deadly or very dangerous to the local habitat if released (Many people release after they realize their mistakes... thus partially the cause of the snakehead issues up north and the carp issues in the misssissippi river) or B) endangered to some degree and likely acquired through some illegal or at very least shady means that would likely have displaced the animal from it's native habitat.

I do not currently nor will ever support such "Shops". I believe in only purchasing locally raised or farm raised animals to preserve nature.

Your last statement is kind of a double edged sword. Animals have to be first taken out of nature in order to have the chance of being "farm raised" or "locally raised". If no new animals are taken out of nature, the stock that you'd be interested in would not be diversified. For example, thousands of wild corals are imported to the United States on a weekly basis. Most of these corals are plucked from the wild from their natural habitat. This not only displaces the animal and other animals that rely on the reef, but, also destroys portions of the natural reef (which you probably know already). Some of these corals that come into the states are chopped and sold as frags. These frags then become colonies which are then again fragged and further distributed down the line. I guess what I'm trying to say is, some one has to "do the dirty". So do you blame the single person the "does the dirty" or blame the whole line of people that receive frags for generating the demand for the "farm raised" animal/coral in the first place? Otherwise, if there was no demand, there wouldn't be a need or desire to take animals from the wild to begin with.