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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8831765#post8831765 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ostrow
Interesting. A guy there told me that the 9000 impeller actually uses the 5000 needlewheel? Didn't make sense.

I'd like to try out the Gen-x pump, either 2x4100s or 1x6000 but just don't know if it would fit.

Thanks for the heads up on the impellar ... won't waste money on that.

As I have been searching, ER claims they mod the pump motors? Are the Sedra pumps that ASM sells modded at all in that way?

I'm just skeptical of this mesh impeller thing. I don't want to start hacking away at my needlewheel.

I've asked a couple shops that have ER skimmers and ASM skimmers to see if the SP4 or SP5 fits flush on a G5. Will post if I learn anything but if anyone here knows it would be a big help.



you can't go wrong with the mesh wheel , here some info :

you can see on sedra sp5-3c the reading before the mod :

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here it's after the mod :

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here it's the genx x6000 after the mod (before it was between 12-14lpm)

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this is how you can get bubble size :

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smaller

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here it's a video how it's work :



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By the way the wheel impeller are the same size on sedra 5000 sedra 9000 and the gen x 6000 the guy was right.

if you want to know if the gen x 6000 can fit on your skimmer i can measure on my ER the center of the hole and let you know
 
Thanks mavgi. What's the longest people have run these mesh mods? HOw often do they need to be replaced?

I've read and read and can't figure out which is best, the synthetic steel wool or the enkamat (though I can't determine where to buy the latter so that may be moot!)

Mavgi: is that genx 6000 on the ER CS250? Do you also own an ASM?
 
The scrub brush mod worked exceltent in a test situation. (I took my skimmer off my tank and put it in a 20 gallon tank with saltwater for testing.)
I just got the enkamat material last night in the mail. I'll do the mod on it later today to see what one I'm going to install on my tank.
 
I should be happy with the scrub brush mod, but I am a little leary of that material clogging up. It is kind of dense, so I will do the 3 layers of enkamat mod and see what kind of numbers I get.

One of the things I want to look at is, how steady is the air flow.
On the gutter guard material, I got pretty high numbers, but the air flow meter really bounced around.
With the scrub brush material, it was about the same as the stock impeller mods, bounced, but not too bad.

I think that the erratic air flow is a "negative" with consistent skimate production.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8833816#post8833816 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ostrow
Thanks mavgi. What's the longest people have run these mesh mods? HOw often do they need to be replaced?

I've read and read and can't figure out which is best, the synthetic steel wool or the enkamat (though I can't determine where to buy the latter so that may be moot!)

Mavgi: is that genx 6000 on the ER CS250? Do you also own an ASM?

i was the first to make the test on the enkmat it's can run long time , IMO you can let it run all the time it's not destroy but you will need to check some time the zip ties because they relase not full open but little bit. (special after the first 2 days).

The gen-x6000 work on the CS250 and i think it's the same size of the ASM G4 , the different it's the neck how it's build .
i suggest to you before you change pump try to make the test on the exist one and see the different.
 
mavgi


One of the things I like about the sedra 9000 is, it's fairly quiet.
How is the gen-x 6000?
 
mfinn, can you email me when you have a chance, where you got that enkamat from? I'm likely gonna try this mod it appears, but first I need an extra impellar from ASM, and want to add up cost of everything first...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8834712#post8834712 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mfinn
mavgi


One of the things I like about the sedra 9000 is, it's fairly quiet.
How is the gen-x 6000?


Yes you rigth GEN x 6000 not so quiet and even with the regular impeller it's little noise with the mesh it's more noise.

the different is the original ER GEN x6000 It's a monster pump and if you mod it perfect this pump will be to big for 30" high skimmer .

i reduce the air because it's was flood .

ostrow :

i am replay now for your email .

here how it's start to build foam when the skimmer break in :





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Well, I just did the 3 layers of enkamata and only got about 9-10l/m.
I'm going to give 4 layers a shot.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8835335#post8835335 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mfinn
Well, I just did the 3 layers of enkamata and only got about 9-10l/m.
I'm going to give 4 layers a shot.

some time $ layer can reduce the air .

what you read before the mod ?

can you post picture of the wheel impeller i want to see how you mod it ?

and is the air intake mod also or it's the same size?
 
I'll try and get some pictures up.
I used a stock venturi. I didnot wait untill I had a air flow meter before I started modding the impeller.
I did do a reading of the euroreef modded impeller, which gave a flow of about 8L/M.
I just did a enkamat mod with 4 layers and the impeller wouldn't spin. So as a test I put in the 3M material mod and it jumped back up to 14L/M
 
Ok, here is a picture of the 3 layer enkamat mod.
It looks kind of puny. I got just about 10L/M from it.





Here are some of the 4layer enkamat mod. It looked like it was going to really kick some butt.
But the impeller wouldn't spin??

 
i want to see the front and how much zip ties you put .

if the impeller not spin there is 2 reason : the mesh attach the top or the side of the pump , did you try to spin the impeller with the finger and to see it's not block by side of the pump .

the cover can not be close good and the pump will not spin .

and did you trim center for the shaft ?


do you have on the impeller top of it washer ?
 
Yeah, I trimed it all the way around so it would spin right and trimed the center and I did use the washer.
here's a picture of the top.



 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8835401#post8835401 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mavgi


what you read before the mod ?


I did get a stock impeller and got a reading of about 7L/M
 
I am going to mod my ASM G-6 skimmer and have the pumps hanging. My question is that if the pump is hang and the venturi/air hose has to be vertical OR can it be horizontal ? currently I am planning to have the venturi in a horizontal position, but all the skimmers I looks at have it vertical right next to the pump inlet.

Please help. Thank you in advance.
 
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