ATI T5 lighting

BADFISH909

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i was planning on setting up a seperate tank with dimensions of 36x24x20. Im running 3 400w and 3 vho bulbs on my main tank and i like the results. Im not familiar with T5 lighting and was wondering if the ATI powermodule with at least 8-10 bulbs would be good. The bulbs are only 39w and i just dont wanna waste my money considering how much the fixture alone cost. Im mainly gonna be housing Sps........also if so how many bulbs should i go for. If it does work out would i bea able to get away with 8 bulbs or should i just get 10. 10 seems like its alot
 
8-10 bulbs is overkill for a tank that size IMO. I'd suggest getting the new ATI Sunpower 6x39w fixture. 8 bulbs will give you a little bit better coverage but I hardly think it's necessary, I wouldn't even consider 10 bulbs. BTW, the Sunpower is essentially the same fixture as the power module but with a little different housing and slightly less cooling.
 
oh..ok thanks. i was doing a lil bit of research online and it was stating that sps dominated tanks for up to 85 gallons should at least go with 8 bulbs. thats why i was gonna consider 8. yeah im gonna look into the sunpower too...........Does the wattage of the bulbs make a difference since the smaller the tank is the less wattage of the bulb?
 
Here's a little review to help you out maybe. I know mine is smaller...

Well I figured I could write a small little review on the ATI Sunpower fixture that I have been using for a little over a month now. I'm no expert but have some experience in this little hobby and maybe this will help someone out! I have the 4x24w 24"...

Build - The fixture is constructed in a aluminum housing that has a brushed look to it. It held together by 10-12 allen head screws but its built very well. I have seen the powermodule in person but I prefer the look of the SP. The fixture is much lighter than the PM too.
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Reflectors and Fan - This is one of the main differences with the SP and PM. The Sunpower has one fan for the 4 bulb fixture and two for the 6 bulb fixture. The PM has a fan for every two bulbs. I have my fan set at 6.5V and seems too keep them very cool. There are four 1/2" holes at the end on the bulbs. This is the "sweet spot" that they found to be the best place for cooling the bulbs. The reflectors themselves have a very nice polished look. There is a power cord for every two bulbs so you can configure your lights for the dust/down effect. The fixture comes with a acrylic splash shield that gets the job done.
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Small holes for cooling
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Lighting - I have no way to measure the PAR or anything like that but I do have a good feel for how intense these lights are. I am running one ATI Aquablues, two ATI Blue+ and one UVI 75/25. This gives me a nice crisp white/blue. Almost like a Phoenix 14k but a little more on the white side. Like I said I have only been using this unit for a little over a month but the colors I am getting out of my corals are amazing! My Red Planet has intense Pink with neon green base, the Setosa is glowing orange and any browned out coral I have put in there has taken on its true color. I dont feel limited to where I can put and of my corals too like I did with my old MHs. My tank is 30" long x 18" deep x 15" tall and this unit is only 23.5" x 9 x 2.5". I am able to put my birdnest in the far left corner out of direct light and it still has the purple polyps and greenish base. My unit is about 4-5" off the water surface and most of my corals are 8-10" down without ANY probelms.
My little rig I have for now to hold the lights up...


Overall I love this fixture! I bought mine for 409.95 with bulbs from reefgeek. Its around 100$ cheaper than the Powermodule and to me I dont see that big of a difference between the two. After using a 250 HQI Sunlight supply pendant for 2 years before taking a break from the hobby I thought I would always use MH's. My only problem with them was how much heat came off of them and how much more power I was using. I did achieve some great colors but nothing like I am getting from these new T5's. At first I thought I was jumping on the T5 fad but after using them I totally understand why SO many people are switching over. Sure they dont have the shimmer lines but being able to adjust what color you want, run cooler ( only because I am running 96w instead of the 250w ) and being able to place corals anywhere in my tank I will always use T5's. Like I said I'm no expert but with how everything looks I'm not complaining!

Just a kinda cool shot of one side of my tank.
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Hope this helps some people. If you have any other questions just post it on here. Maybe I can help you out!

-Dave
 
Thanks for posting that. I did not know about those holes drilled for cooling. Are the holes on both ends???

I am doing a custom T5 retro but trying to take some hints from the ATI units.... a fan for every 2 bulbs etc. I may just drill some holes in my canopy above the end of the bulbs just like that..... Thanks!
 
Badfish, the number of bulbs for T5s is going to be based on your tank footprint. I would totally ignore anything that says you have to have at least 8 bulbs for SPS, or anything like that. It's just not possible in narrower tanks, nor is it necessary. If 6 bulbs give you good front to back coverage and your tank isn't too deep for the t5s to penetrate, then 6 bulbs will work fine. Now, personally, since your tank is 24" front to back I would go with 8 bulbs because it will give better coverage. My tank is 30" front to back, and I went with a 10 bulb setup. The only reason I did not go with a Powermodule is because they don't overdrive the bulbs, so the only thing I would worry about with your setup would be penetration, with only 39watt bulbs. But, I'm pretty sure you'll still be okay, unless all your SPS is way down on the sand bed.
 
ReefEnabler, the bulbs have a "cold spot" on the end with the label. That's where the air is directed through the holes in the fixture, and why there only need to be holes on one end of the fixture. If you're doing a retro be careful not to blow too much air onto the bulbs. I talked with Grim quite a bit before doing my own fixture, and he pointed out that it is much more harmful to the bulbs to over cool them than it is to under cool them. In the ATI fixtures the air is pulled in through the top, runs by the ballast, and then down through the holes to hit the cold spot. So, the air has been heated before it ever gets to the bulbs. You only want this "cold spot" to be like 113 degrees F, not anywhere near 75 or 80 of room temp air blowing directly down on the bulbs. In fact, if you're talking about a true retro, not an enclosed fixture, you'll probably have plenty of passive air movement inside your hood to keep the bulbs cool enough. If however, you're talking about mimicking an ATI fixture, then just keep that layout in mind and direct the air across the ballasts before it gets to the bulbs.

My fixture, is 10 bulb like I said before, Icecap ballasts (the only good reason I made my own), 4 fans directed across the ballasts then down through a slot to pass over the bulbs at the cold spot (the fans are temp controlled too, so they don't turn on prematurely), reefgeek reflectors (smaller footprint than icecap and slightly better), icecap endcaps, SS body like the powermodules.

Really, the powermodules are a very good deal, unless you want to overdrive the bulbs, especially reefgeek has great prices on them. Also, I heard ATI has a new fixture coming out that will overdrive the bulbs and will be dimmable too(I think?). If I'd been able to wait, I would have gone that route since the overdriving aspect was the only thing I wasn't going to get from ATI, because building my own was a huge PITA, and not cheap.
 
Thanks.

I guess I misunderstood what the holes were for, I thought the holes were for the heat to rise OUT of the fixture above the bulbs, not for the air to be forced in through them. Now I see what you mean.

I'm familiar with the "cold spot" and the 113F being optimal (I got an IR thermometer to try and perfect it).

I definitely have the capability to overcool my bulbs, which is why these fans have a variable power supply that can go 5, 7, 9 or 12v. They're only 21cfm at max, and very quiet. btw overdriving on a 660... hence all the fans :D

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(rough mockup, the fans are now mounted on aluminum frame that can be rotated to aim more or less at the bulbs)

There will also be two fans on the top of the canopy pushing air OUT of the canopy... hoping it will be most of the warm air.


Thats the last I'll mention this setup here, sorry for going OT! My build will have more info soon.
 
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