Audit my quarantine plans for my 300G reef please

[bif24701]

Take a look into hypo salinity. For me it's far easier and less stressful to the fishes. You can use parizopro and activated carbon (not at same time). I have never seen spikes in ammonia as long as a filter is establish or you do partial water changes. Water changes are easy, use tap water/prime or Safe, uses less salt. Buffer pH with soda ash, and an air stone. I've been successful 100% and requires far less monitoring and testing.


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[zachtos]

You don't need a lot of space for TTM. I do it with 5g buckets.

Do a few fish at a time. Dr Foster n Smith has or had a sale on bulk IO salt. Or find the cheapest salt you can find.

Conditioned tap water is fine, they will only be in it for less than 3 days.

Thanks for confirming bacteria and copper, that is what I thought years ago. I will still add stability bottle bacteria to the QTs just in case.
Match salinity to the water the fish is coming in at. Adjust as you move them b/w buckets.

Formalin dip incoming fish, treat with Parizopro 2 n 3rd transfers.


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That is a great idea, 5 gallon buckets are easy and cheap.

Forgot that tap water would be fine too.

Royal grammas I had another thread getting advice and several people claim success if added same time young and small. Cheap enough to try, especially since I never had luck with chromis or anthias.

ammonia detoxifier with prazipro and chlorquine phosphate, I think maybe that could allow me to stock the QT heavier maybe. I don't think crowding is the issue while they are tiny fish, but rapid disease spread. Hopefully this next try I can just start copper and prazipro from day 2, and formalin dip day 1, rather delayed a week for observation...

 

[Mishri]

I actually just read through that article and he said he switched to chlorquine phosphate as well..

"*I have since replaced Cupramine with chloroquine phosphate, which I find is easier to administer for single dose treatment of external parasites. Chloroquine is harder to acquire than Cupramine though, so if you can not find Chloroquine, Cupramine is still a viable substitute."

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he also adds this note:

" Note: While praziquental is safe with choloroquine, choloroquine has been shown to reduce the bio-availability of praziquental, so a second dose of praziquental during choloroquine treatment may prove ineffective."

Which I didn't know.. so.. he waits till prazipro does it's thing then does the CP.. But if you see ich or velvet I'd dose CP right away and follow up with the prazipro after the CP is eliminated from the system (run carbon-some say a day will do it, others say a week.. if you were running an oversized aquaclear hob filter, or a canister filter i'd think a day should do it.. but I dunno)

 

[zachtos]

chloroquine phosphate looks like a new proven method, but my main fear will still be how to keep bio sponge filters in tact if it were to damage them. I have many bottles of 'stability' coming and was hoping to use those to help keep bacteria populations up during cupramine, or I guess that could work in either case. Prime/Amquel to knock ammonia out with the chloroquine phosphate would be very handy though...

I suppose I'm torn on chloroquine phosphate (CP) with ammonia reducers and/or bottle bacteria / sponge filters vs cupramine with bottle bacteria / sponge fitlers.

I still do plan to acquire many angels, maybe more angels/tangs and no more small sensitive fish that I usually had no luck with in past.

 

[Mishri]

You could do water changes, with the ammonia alert badges you'll at least know right away. I just don't like it because then you have to add medication to your replacement water. normally I wouldn't use the ammonia detoxifiers... just while I'm medicating.

CP shouldn't harm the beneficial bacteria at all. it does kill algae/plants though so some people see an ammonia spike from that... but since this is a newly setup QT tank I don't think you'll have a problem.

 

[zachtos]

You could do water changes, with the ammonia alert badges you'll at least know right away. I just don't like it because then you have to add medication to your replacement water. normally I wouldn't use the ammonia detoxifiers... just while I'm medicating.

CP shouldn't harm the beneficial bacteria at all. it does kill algae/plants though so some people see an ammonia spike from that... but since this is a newly setup QT tank I don't think you'll have a problem.

Sounds good. I already have badges, I actually did not know they were re-useable/reset capable.

I guess all I would need to buy is the CP then in place of cupramine. I will just have to research pros/cons I suppose. Not a big investment of course.

 

[Mishri]

yeah, this thread discussed it quite a bit: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2397496 then there is the chlorquine phosphate journey thread that seems to always be getting posted in.

 

[microlady]

You don't need a lot of space for TTM. I do it with 5g buckets.

Do a few fish at a time. Dr Foster n Smith has or had a sale on bulk IO salt. Or find the cheapest salt you can find.

Conditioned tap water is fine, they will only be in it for less than 3 days.

Match salinity to the water the fish is coming in at. Adjust as you move them b/w buckets.

Formalin dip incoming fish, treat with Parizopro 2 n 3rd transfers.


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This is my procedure too! Then I observe in a cycled quarantine tank for another 3 weeks or so. So far, so good.