firefly73
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I truly hate to drop in on forums as a newbie and ask a question straight up i find it quite rude act and i am sorry BUT.......
Have a Mantis that has been healthy and active for the last 6 weeks or so. he is a large size around 12cm and displayed no issues. eating well curious active learnt thats the feed stick etc etc
i feed him a variety of dead foods (fresh prawn meat) (fresh fish) frozen krill AND he also smashes up various hitch hiker snails and crabs etc
Tank is a sps reef 400 with ai prime and t5 sup lights 2 mp40qd and running a m1 return with gfo and biopellet.
Tank
0 ammonia
0 nitrite
.02 no3
<.03 p04
alk 9 dkh (although i did just refill my dosing and havent rechecked as of yet)
ca 420
mg 1400
water temp 26-27 (WINTER IS COMING)
nsw via a 50micron sock collected locally (clean water)
total system volume tank sump and fuge display 540l
stocking
1 decora
1 dartfish goby
1 acro goby
2 false percs
1 yellow tang sub adult
1 blue tang sub adult
1 chromis(cant catch him!)
2 mandys (healthy and fat on natural pods no sup feeding)
coral banded shrimp
peppermint shrimp
2 trochus snails
1 stromb
ISSUE
aquascaped the tank all removed rock went to the fuge display so no loss of bacteria etc. Did stir up the 2 to 3mm sand and exported this to a poly filter in the sump. tank did go manky but cleared quickly. During cleaning the mantis had his hole (which he made) destroyed this was unavoidable. so with him swimming around i caught him and moved him to the fuge tank (which was isolated just before the cleaning. when the tank had cleared to 50% approx i added him back in to the main tank. 1 hr later i reopened the fuge.
next morning tank crystal clear everyone seems happy (although the mantis had not dug out a new den (i supplied a few rocks and ledges etc for him to get started) fast forward 24hrs.
MANTIS head down using feelers to navigate and on closer obs seemed to have a twitching behaviour with a loss of spatial oreintation ie walking on one side legs moving but in the air so to speak.Also noticed all my acro crabs DEAD. saw some fall of sps walk around and twitch then bam dead (spewin had 7 different colours etc)
no issues with the fish nothing period. But did notice my coral banded acting very strange as well
phone call to local marine shop. MAY have disturbed a sponge that released toxins.......May have crushed a small cucumber(unlikely) Stirring up detrius may have blocked gills ( are fish gills more delicate than crabs etc i do know that the crabs and shrimp are more sensitive to toxins and pollution.
Dropped in a bag of carbon turned up mp40 and raised them 1 hr later coral banded seems better and also the mantis. Check the peppers in the fuge they never seemed sick.
Fast forward to today coral banded fine peppers fine snails fine
Mantis very sick but does feed if i hand feed him fresh prawn.
Could this have been because of a bacteria either using to much o2 (fish seemed fine) or a secondary type infection in the gills from the cloudy water? (once again no fish or snails etc show any issues)
not having his den is bad but my coral showed the same issues so its not that.
any suggestions?
Have a Mantis that has been healthy and active for the last 6 weeks or so. he is a large size around 12cm and displayed no issues. eating well curious active learnt thats the feed stick etc etc
i feed him a variety of dead foods (fresh prawn meat) (fresh fish) frozen krill AND he also smashes up various hitch hiker snails and crabs etc
Tank is a sps reef 400 with ai prime and t5 sup lights 2 mp40qd and running a m1 return with gfo and biopellet.
Tank
0 ammonia
0 nitrite
.02 no3
<.03 p04
alk 9 dkh (although i did just refill my dosing and havent rechecked as of yet)
ca 420
mg 1400
water temp 26-27 (WINTER IS COMING)
nsw via a 50micron sock collected locally (clean water)
total system volume tank sump and fuge display 540l
stocking
1 decora
1 dartfish goby
1 acro goby
2 false percs
1 yellow tang sub adult
1 blue tang sub adult
1 chromis(cant catch him!)
2 mandys (healthy and fat on natural pods no sup feeding)
coral banded shrimp
peppermint shrimp
2 trochus snails
1 stromb
ISSUE
aquascaped the tank all removed rock went to the fuge display so no loss of bacteria etc. Did stir up the 2 to 3mm sand and exported this to a poly filter in the sump. tank did go manky but cleared quickly. During cleaning the mantis had his hole (which he made) destroyed this was unavoidable. so with him swimming around i caught him and moved him to the fuge tank (which was isolated just before the cleaning. when the tank had cleared to 50% approx i added him back in to the main tank. 1 hr later i reopened the fuge.
next morning tank crystal clear everyone seems happy (although the mantis had not dug out a new den (i supplied a few rocks and ledges etc for him to get started) fast forward 24hrs.
MANTIS head down using feelers to navigate and on closer obs seemed to have a twitching behaviour with a loss of spatial oreintation ie walking on one side legs moving but in the air so to speak.Also noticed all my acro crabs DEAD. saw some fall of sps walk around and twitch then bam dead (spewin had 7 different colours etc)
no issues with the fish nothing period. But did notice my coral banded acting very strange as well
phone call to local marine shop. MAY have disturbed a sponge that released toxins.......May have crushed a small cucumber(unlikely) Stirring up detrius may have blocked gills ( are fish gills more delicate than crabs etc i do know that the crabs and shrimp are more sensitive to toxins and pollution.
Dropped in a bag of carbon turned up mp40 and raised them 1 hr later coral banded seems better and also the mantis. Check the peppers in the fuge they never seemed sick.
Fast forward to today coral banded fine peppers fine snails fine
Mantis very sick but does feed if i hand feed him fresh prawn.
Could this have been because of a bacteria either using to much o2 (fish seemed fine) or a secondary type infection in the gills from the cloudy water? (once again no fish or snails etc show any issues)
not having his den is bad but my coral showed the same issues so its not that.
any suggestions?