Just purchased a apex the other day and in the process of setting up fusion and updating firmware which I proceeded to do with my computer not directly connected to my router i assume i put the apex in boot loader mode. Luckily i have had a club member who has helped me through a lot of tech problems but this one for some reason was just not cooperating for me. I have entered a service ticket with neptune and had been conversing with them and went through steps they suggest to no avail. They suggested a remote session and what time i was available. I gave them a time about 2 hours from the time i sent the message and received no response till well after that time i requested stating that my appointment was for the next day at a later time than i had requested to begin with. Why ask me a time if your just going to setup your own time anyway. Sure enough their scheduled appointment time comes and no call or email from them. I wait the 15 min window after the appointment time as stated in the email they sent and emailed to see what was going on and still no answer or call from them an hour later. Why have an appointment. I switched from DA to Apex for the service and am not really seeing the benefit other than a high priced controller that i cant use now. While im not very tech savvy at all would at least expect a company to hold themselves accountable when they offer to give tech support. Really glad i have not removed my DA equipment from my tank yet as i think it will be remaining there and getting rid of Apex due to not being worth the hype. I understand this may be an isolated issue but still a bad first experience for a first time customer and prob my last experience with them.