Bandit angel in higher temp ?

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Hello,
has anyone successfully kept a bandit angel at higher temps ? like around 80 +-1 degree..

I hope mr. Copps sees this lol :) but would a small one get used to higher temp given excellent water quality and feeding ?

any experience or advice is appreciated :) such a beautiful fish, but I dont want to do it any harm ...
 
I have read that blog several time in the past and it tempted me into thinking I can have a bandit in a higher reef temp setting. But after researching the few thread here on RC, I came to the conclusion that higher temp = shorten life span. I want to be able to have my bandit live as long as possible so mine lives in a reef tank that gets no higher than 74 in summer and as low as 71 in winter. I am sure the bandit can adjust to higher temp but I am not willing to take the risk of shorten her lifespan.
 
thank you :)

is yours in the 37 G ?!

Ill try to find Sanjay to see how his pair is doing.

now regarding foood, NLS like other angels seems the best ? or
 
Something I have learned through Copps's comments in the Ventralis Anthias Primer is that temperature is one thing that one cannot acclimate a fish to and have it live out its normal full life. This meaning that tropical fish should be kept at tropical temps, temperate fish kept at temperate temps, etc.
 
The question to be answered is why do they live in deeper colder water. Temp, food, light? Is it a preference or necessity? Personally I keep the temp in the low 70's for mine in the belief they should be at cooler temps. I'm sure some may do well in higher temps but if you took 100 bandits and put them all at higher temps how many would not do well?
 
I've talked with Copps about temp and he does believe that fish should be kept at their natural temp and he's probably right. But everything in my hot Hawaiian garage seems to be doing fine. I've had a pair of bandits for almost 2 years and the temp is usually at or over 80 for most of the year. They don't spawn however until the temp drops to 77. So that probably tells us something.

Karen
 
paka said:
I've talked with Copps about temp and he does believe that fish should be kept at their natural temp and he's probably right. But everything in my hot Hawaiian garage seems to be doing fine. I've had a pair of bandits for almost 2 years and the temp is usually at or over 80 for most of the year. They don't spawn however until the temp drops to 77. So that probably tells us something.

Karen
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in Hawaii...they can 'smell' from your garage that home is very near.....so they would go on living.....:lol2:


[P.S:don't think i am making fun of you,i know you are the one who breed personatus angelfish and full barred latezonatus clown.......:thumbsup:]
 
Thank you guys.

your replies makes alot of sense. thank you to Karen and everyone else for sharing :)

I couldnt pass on this little guy ... so dropped the temp. in my SPS tank from 80-81 to 77-78.5. hope my SPS wont mind.
my apartment is usually around 73 degrees, so I am sure I can drop the temp down to 74-76 in the coming week.

hopefully that range would work out for him.

I keep my seahorses at 80+ as well, but thats a different story all together, the seahorses live in those temp in wild.

now can anyone tell me if my bandit is male or female ? how do I tell ?

thanks again :)
 
thanks michael :)

I will post pics over the weekend, its 3" give or take, maybe 3.5"

it took a piece of PE mysis last night, but I didnt feed it more for now ... gonna try more tonight after work :) any special food you can recommend ?

I am going to try spirulina and NLS pellets as well over the weekend. in my reef I usually feed PE mysis once a day and flake and pellets 3 times a day. nori once a day to make the anchilles happy too.

I have a hybrid lemonpeel in the main tank as well, same size, so going to take it easy on acclimating it to my reef after QT.

wish me luck with my first deep water fish :) haha
 
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I have experience keeping Bandits, and they seem to thrive long term at the 66-72 degree range. The Bandits I sold when I got rid of my old 300 gallon were collected by Matthew Ross at around 150 ft. They pretty much ate right out of the bag.

My understanding is the lower the temp slows a fish's metabolism, allows the fish to "fatten up", and is the natural temps for the Bandit. The higher temps cause the fish to use more energy, speeds up metabolism, and causes deepwater specimens to stress, lose weight, and get mystery bacterial infections, etc.

Good luck with your Bandit, they are such a personable fish; I miss mine :(
 
Awesome news a 3.5" bandit is a great size!
Every Bandit that I have ever had has eaten right out of the bag, or in the case of one from Rob Lowder, right in the bag.

All of mine have been maintained on mysis and NLS pellets with the occasional fresh seafood.

~Michael
 
what do you guys think this is ?
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some sort of fungus or virus infection ? should I treat ?

dropping temp further to below 75 tonight. its -15 here now so shouldnt be an ISsue :)

he is eating nori [nips] and all sorts of algae, even grape algae ! will try live clam and other stuff tonight, no interest in pellets or mysis yet :( but he did have alot of algae to eat on the weekend.
 
I am sure the bandit can adjust to higher temp but I am not willing to take the risk of shorten her lifespan.
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Just keep her eating. As she adjusts she should quickly take to a captive diet. The fact that she is eating so much algal matter is promising. I know in your other post you said she is staring to take brine, mysis is the next step and once she tries it I am certain that she will love it. I would not treat her with anything until you are confident in her feeding response.

I am not an expert on fish disease, but I would guess either bacterial or possibly a lymph?

Don't freak yet, these guys can be quite tough, I brought one of mine back from frozen and basically dead when I first received her, so I have high hopes for yours!

~Michael
 
Just keep her eating. As she adjusts she should quickly take to a captive diet. The fact that she is eating so much algal matter is promising. I know in your other post you said she is staring to take brine, mysis is the next step and once she tries it I am certain that she will love it. I would not treat her with anything until you are confident in her feeding response.

I am not an expert on fish disease, but I would guess either bacterial or possibly a lymph?

Don't freak yet, these guys can be quite tough, I brought one of mine back from frozen and basically dead when I first received her, so I have high hopes for yours!

~Michael
 
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