bandit angelfish

Wow, I thought Max, the owner, could get anything.
I asked him to get me a lineatus wrasse, it took him a couple of weeks but he got me a beautiful, HEALTHY, fish.
You might want to email or call him. Really easy to get in touch with.
 
The ones at twilight aquatics are not for sale yet. oops I didn't contact the guy at reef hotspot only looked at what they had in stock. I'll try that. Has anyone tryed twilight before? Are the prices reasonable?
 
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I just caught this guy a week ago. I got him eating 2 days later. Very healthy. How long till your ready to get one?
 
The Angel in the pic looks at the right size, the larger ones almost never feed.
in HKG they are coming in every month or so, but always larger ones at 6-7".
At this size they wont eat, and even if they eat they can stop eating and die without a reason.
I'd go for a 3" one if I had a chance.
If the angel in that pic is sold ,you can try Brian at Twilightaquatics, he specifies the size is 2-5" maybe he will answer your e-mail, he wont answer mine from some reason.
Good Luck with the fish!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7689782#post7689782 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rare Angels
How big is that Bandit? Do you think you could get another anytime soon. I am looking for two smaller ones.

Bandit angels will fight with each other unless they're already paired up when caught. Getting two of them is a bad idea unless you want them in separate tanks.

I've seen the angel in Alika's pic - it's very small, healthy, and it eats (the most important thing). Bandits that size don't come in often, so you should jump on it if you can!
 
My LFS has one. He's (she's) about 6" and ate like a champ the first night. Very pretty fish. Unfortunately, at $399 he may be there awhile. I have room for maybe 2 more larger fish in a 180 FOWLR and this may be one of them.
 
Matts right about two fish. Very bad idea. Although the juvis may get along, in a small (less than 1000gal) tank they will fight like there is no tommrow. Of course there are exceptions but thats the general consensus. My guy is about 3-3.5 inches very healthy.

"HKG they are coming in every month or so, but always larger ones at 6-7". Who are these clowns?

I find this to be very bad practice. It starts a chain of events that I would like to share and hope you people could spread the word.
When a hobbiest or petstore demands a larger bandit they are asking thier Hawaiian wholesaler for it (not counting guys like Brian and myself). The wholesaler who prefers 5" and under will tell his divers to keep an eye out for anything. The diver will then go out and catch a plus 5" specimen to make a couple bucks. The percent that survive this ordel are so minimal its depressing. If Matt has the time he can explain the science of why these fish do so poorly (decompression etc). Thats not even takking the feeding problem into account. I wouldnt want that big specimen they have been known to dye a few months later for no apparent reason. Large specimens are the breeders and should be left in the wild to make babies. The chance of them living is so small that its not worth risking your money or supporting this stupid practice.

Buy bandits less than 5" only. If you have the chance buy from a responsible source.
 
Oh yeah and if you have the chance, its critical to find out what depth they were caught at, that makes a huge differnce. Slighlty over 5" may do ok if they are caught shallow but keep in mind, these are usually deep water angels. Of course some wonder into the shallows, hell I caught mine at 60ft and thats very uncommon.
 
How does one measure a fish exactly? Seems like a strange question, but if I am drawing undue attention to the collection practices of the wholesaler or the integrity of my LFS by describing a fish as larger than it really is, then I need to know.

The 6" specimen that I describe above is the entire fish - front lip to tip of tail. Is this the correct method of measuring fish?
 
Yeah fish are measured lips to tail .

Alikatoes, in HKG I never saw a 2-4" specimens, always larger and mostly if left in the shops they didnt do good.

I agree about the parents that should left in the sea to breed, but thats correct also for feeding Pomacathidae, like P.paru, H.ciliaris, P.arcuatus, those species are very popular in Asia and the most popular ones are the 12"+ specimens, those are breeding parents, you can see shipments of 30-50pcs of these huge size Angels coming in, each in a special box, never understood why.

When you're diving what is the common size you see the Bandits?
 
It is my recollection that Bandit Angels are normally deep water fish and as such require proper decompression during the collection process. As such, collection depth is relevant.
 

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