<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15381540#post15381540 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by carb850
I don't see any need for you to defend yourself. I haven't seen a single post calling you. I certainly do appreciate the time you spoke to me about the sump idea and while I don't recall any other specific events I don't doubt you helped me on others over the last couple of years. I know you have helped others a lot as well.
Like I said, I dont know if the early reply was aimed toward me or not so I just thought I would clear somethings up.
I have the pleasure of getting acquainted with several others in the club which were friendly and/or helpful including sixliner6, rnhrtfan, cdbias2, igotsalt, coralreefer, mattg, lowcel, spinnerbayt, undertaker, altpers0na, and firefish2020 (I'm sure there are many more that I haven't got to know). I may not agree with every ones politics but I can still like/respect them.
Same here, that is why I dont know why there has to always be drama on this board. I think everyone has been helpful to me at sometime. However, I took offense to the whole CVRC is just for monetary gain thing. I guess this is why I went through some of the things I helped people do over the years.
It may not have a President but it does have a private owner. Are most other reef clubs non-profit organizations (I don't know)?
He created it, shouldn't he have some say over it? I dont know about other clubs either and it really does not matter that much to me. I mean anyone here could do the same thing Ron did. So why dont they? Maybe cause they will not spend the time and effort to get it off the ground.
While I have never owned, administrated, or moderated a message board I have been an active member in many during the past 10 years. Over this time, I have seen several occasions were people threaten legal action. Never once have I heard of anything coming out of it. In one case I saw a very positive change from a board continuing a thread after being threaten legally. While I don't doubt this event happened as you described, it seems to be a convenient excuse to limit competition.
I guess you can see it as you want. Everyone has the right to their opinion on the matter and I guess it could be seen as a way to limit competition also. I guess I am the only one here that remembers when a certain LFS tried to shut down the club and was able to stop the auctions we once held.
A club should be in existence to help members as the number one goal, not 'Support your LFS'. While, I do find it important to support LFS it shouldn't come at the expense of the members. So being able to talk openly about buying dry goods or livestock online is a huge issue for me. This will vary from person to person, but I really will pay more for something locally but only to a point. Being opposed to a online group buy for certain bulk dry items because you can get the same items (non-bulk) locally hurts the membership base pockets all in the name of supporting your LFS. In the example I'm referring too I imagine the price difference would have been huge.
The club has had various group buys in the past from livestock to equipment. Right now there is a group buy happening on the CVRC. I agree people should be able to find good deals and pass them on. On the other hand though, I do wonder what is going to happen to most of the local stores as more and more people buy online. I guess they will go out of business and people will need to wait for a bucket of salt to be ground shipped to them when they have to do an emergency water change.
