Best bang for the buck SLR camera?

roper512

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I'm looking for the best SLR for the money mostly for taking reef pics (although I will also use it as general purpose).. I am totally willing to purchase on eBay where prices are much lower than retail (I've bought cameras before off ebay with no issues)..

I'd also like recommendations on good macro lenses for said camera..

Thanks!
Adam
 
I'll chime in since no one else has. I've been very pleased with my Rebel XT. As for the macro lens, I'm getting the F/2.8 100mm macro for it in a few weeks. I was considering the D70 or Rebel XT and the Canon just felt better in my hands, it was considerably smaller and lighter than the D70.
 
I just got a Pentax *ist DL for $364 (lens included). It is only 6.1mp, but so far it is a very good camera at a better price.
 
Best bang for hte buck IMO is the Nikon D50. All the great Nikon features and quality in an entry level camera and price :)
 
I'm very happy with with my D-50. When it comes to lens choices I think your best bet would be Nikon or Cannon, and for the most part its just personal choice between the two.
 
Just to add further support... Nikon D50 or Canon Rebel XT.

Both Canon and Nikon are the industry leaders, and for a good reason. They both make great equipment. I'm a Canon guy, but for anyone to say one manufacturer is better than the other is pretty short sighted. There are simply too many little nuances that make one better than another... for a specific person.

I prefer Canon for the ruggedness, and their reputation for sports and action photography. When I got into photography, I was shooting race cars. Some prefer Nikon for their portrait and fine art reputation. Of course, neither camera is better than the other at either type of environment, it's just personal preference and, for some reason, the reputation these manufacturers have developed.

Anyway... go to a camera shop and play with the XT and D50. See which feels better in your hands. Play with the controls and make sure they're what feels natural and are easy to use. When using your camera, you should be looking through the viewfinder at your shot, not at the chassis, trying to find "that button."
 
I'll add another vote for the Canon Rebel XT. Shoots great action and close up....I love mine !
 
Although I am a Nikon guy, in certian respects I like the Cannon bodies a bit better. However, NOBODY beats Nikor glass. (except Hasselblad)

If you plan on using other glass besides the Nikor, then go with the Cannon.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7888004#post7888004 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefrunner69
Except canon, Leica, Zeiss, Zukio, etc...it all depends on the lens ;)

I respectfully disagree.

Pick one of the company’s you mentioned. We’ll then take a lens from the following categories:

Wide angle
Standard Portrait
Wide angle zoom
Regular zoom
Above 300mm telephoto

And I saved the best for last…
Close up

Nikor will meet or beat their scores in overall competition.
 
Okay, I'll play

Wide angle - EF 35mm f1.4 L
Standard Portrait - EF 50mm f1.4, EF 85mm 1.2 L, EF 135mm f/2 L (pick your length)
Wide angle zoom - EF 17-40 f4 L or EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS
Regular zoom - EF 24-70 f2.8 L or EF 24-105 f4 L IS, or if you want longer EF 70-200 f2.8 L IS
Above 300mm telephoto - (take your pick) EF 300mm f2.8 L IS, EF 400mm f2.8 L IS, EF 500mm f4 L IS, EF 600mm F4 L IS, or how about the Canon EF 1200mm f/5.6 L?
Close up - EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro

I saved an even better one for last....
Super Close Up - MP-E 65mm 1-5x Macro

Fact is, both companies make some great lenses, as well as some average consumer lenses. I don't think you can say that either is better than the other across the board.


(sorry for the hijack)

To answer the OP, either the D50 or the XT would be the best bang for the buck. In either brand, they offer the same fundamental innards, use the same lenses, and are capable of capturing virtually identical images as their much more expensive siblings.
 
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Jeffbrig - Nice list, I'd love to have one of each in my bag :) I'll even throw in my Tamron 28-75 f2.8 into the mix...while not quite as sharp as the L glass, its pretty damn good while being considerably cheaper...So that just goes to show that even 3rd party lenses can perform excellent and on par or even better in some cases,with nikor or canon glass.

But to get back on topic - After trying to decide between the xt and the D70 w/18-70 lens (which is supposed to be an excellent "kit" lens), my in-laws made the decision for me! Got the rebel xt for xmas last year. It helped I already owned a canon 35mm, and had a lens or two left over from that.
 
I'm going with everyone else to say either Canon or Nikon. I bought the D50 and you can see a lot of my galleries at http://www.dawsonsrejects.com , most of them are just the kit lens. The only problems I have encountered with my camera is I somewhat wish I would have bought the D70 so that I could have a backlite LCD on top. I do a lot of shooting at night and it's nice to know exactly where you are at without having to look through the viewfinder. Maybe you don't plan on much night shooting so that might not bug you. Other than that my only problem with the Canon is I don't feel the menus are set up as nicely and easily as the Nikon, but I'm sure if you never had both it wouldn't bug you that much.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7892136#post7892136 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Nikon_Guy
I respectfully disagree.

Pick one of the company’s you mentioned. We’ll then take a lens from the following categories:

Wide angle
Standard Portrait
Wide angle zoom
Regular zoom
Above 300mm telephoto

And I saved the best for last…
Close up

Nikor will meet or beat their scores in overall competition.

OK I pick the Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 Distagon vs Nikon 20mm f/2.8 Nikor to start (neither of which I own), who does the scoring?
 
These types of threads always seem to pull out the measurebators. Unless you plan on printing a billboard sign you'll never be able to tell the difference between Canon's or Nikon's top glass, and anyone who says they can is full of skimmate.

Do not buy blind. Notice there were many posts in this thread recommending you going and holding different cameras to see which one feels better. Each camera has its own ergonomics, and you don't want to be stuck with an uncomfortable camera for any length of time. Sift through the menus on each camrea and see which one you think is personally more intuitive to your brain. I assume you meant you're going digital SLR, so while you're in the store ask the person helping you to put a card in the camera and snap a few photos. Don't pay attention to how the photo looks on the LCD, rather how the camera felt: ergonomics, shutter lag, autofocus, manual focus, etc. If you have the access, you should also find someone willing to show you Canon's software and Nikon's software, and see which one again is more intuitive to you.

As for the original question about "bang for the buck," IMO on Nikon's side it's the D200 and on Canon's side it's the 20D or 30D. However, you can't go wrong in image quality with either the Digital Rebel or Nikon's D50 or D70 if you're looking to stay a little cheaper.

Always keep in mind that these cameras are tools for the photographer. None of them will magically turn you into a great photographer on their own. What's more important than the camera choice you make is learning the fundamentals; composition, lighting, and control over your photograph come in way ahead of being able to spot the image quality differences between the major brands.

As for a macro lens, if you go Canon the 100mm macro or 180mm macro are excellent. The MP-E 65mm is a tremendous lens, but has serious limitations in aquaria photography due to its extremely shallow working distance. If you go Nikon, the 105mm or 180mm are excellent. In either case you have some third-party options as well. The Tamron 90mm and Sigma 105mm are excellent, too.

As for myself, i shoot Nikon. I like the more professional feel of the camera, the ruggedness, customer service (i have dealt with Canon in the past with film SLRs), lighting options with the SB-800s, and the list goes on. For most of my aquaria shots i use the Tamron 90mm. Now, with all that said, i will never say Nikon is superior than Canon, flex my muscles and walk away. I simply chose Nikon because when it came down to it, it was a better choice for me, and me alone.

Good luck with your purchase!
 
Thanks a lot Desert Fox!

Just wondering if you or anyone else here has any hands on experience comparing say the Nikon D70 with the Canon 20d? Is the canon worth the extra cost?
 
I'm not sure hands on experience is necessary to answer that question. the answer is yes, and no. For some the extra cost of the 20d is more than justifiable, for some it isn't. You need to look at the features f both cameras and see if the 20D has anything that makes it worth the extra cost for you. As has been mentioned earlier to really make a decision, you need to go and handle each camera.

Things the 20D offers over the D70s
2 extra megapixels (negligeble)
ISO 100 (negligeble)
more powerful onboard flash
5fps vs nikons 3fps
time lapse recording
magnesium alloy vs plastic

I'm sure there are more, that's just what I saw in a side by side on dpreview, and there are things the D70s has over the 20D. For me, the magnesium alloy construction and frame rate were enough to push me to the 20d, niether might be important to you. Most of the differences are going to be completely user dependant as to whether they are worth the extra cost.
 
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