best fish for 20, 30, 50, 75, 100, 150, 200

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For a 20: best start with tough corals and inverts (with good lighting) because the best fish are fragile: smallest gobies, blennies
For a 30: again, starting with corals and inverts, graduating to larger gobies, blennies, maybe a clown pair but NO anemone until mature tank/hobbyist
For a 50: corals are fine, but so are blennies, gobies, fairy wrasses, dartfish [they jump]; clown pair (again, wait on nem), dwarf angel, etc. ALso good special-species tank; only 1 damsel in this size. Once you have a STRONG fuge going, one of the smallest dragonets, only one.
For a 75: pretty much same as a 50, but more variety.
For a 100: again, more variety, very smallest browsing tang species; multiple damsels ok, one of a kind; mandarin or scooter ok with fuge
150: more varieties; more species of tangs become viable; butterfly with extreme caution (fragile, and nippers); angels become viable (they eat coral and sponge);
200: again, larger species, more varieties.

Most of us WILL have more than one tank in a lifetime, and most of us don't start out with a 200 or larger. If what you would like to have doesn't fit the tank you have, don't get it--yet. Wait for that future tank. Meanwhile explore what will make a beautiful tank where you are.

Far from a comprehensive list, but you can kind of see the size cutoff points, and I hope it may help you figuring out what's cool to have---most who start the hobby don't even know the blenny and goby families, but they're the very best for the small tanks everybody starts with. As your skill and ambition increase (along with experience) you can look toward the tank o' yer dreams down the way...with a real likelihood of making it work and having your critters live.

The real small fish have about a 7-8 year lifespan; the larger ones, way longer: plan on that. Not quite that of koi, at 235 years---but still, ideally above a decade. It's like getting a dog or cat: you're in it for much longer when you get the larger species.

Hope this helps give you some ideas what you can do. And don't be scared of corals: they're living filters, help improve the water, and some of them (not the pricey ones, alas) grow like crabgrass given decent lighting and conditions.
 
We try to advise on fish lists, if only people will ask before they buy them. [please!] There are a lot of variables, but we can at least give some advisement.
 
OK, my tank is t even set up yet I'm still shopping so I have lots of time to take advice :)

On my wish list (not necessarily in this order)

Molly Miller blenny (1)
Benggai cardinalfish (x2)
Sunrise or orchid dottyback (how many?)
Lemonpeel angel (1)
ocellaris clown (pair)

My questions are which first? I'm guessing the cardinalfish. I know they like to school so I'm not sure how many of those or the dottybacks I can keep. I am planning a 75 gal reef.

Thanks for any and all feedback!

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And another thread that should be a sticky. However, I think 125 should be a major milestone. As per LA, many fish options open up at that point. My next tank will be a FOWLR around 125 for that reason.
 
Cindy K, cautions on the dottyback (low cunning and an ambush predator behavior, real hard to catch) ---you might look at a royal gramma to give you the color without the temperament. And on the lemonpeel angel: fragile, hard to keep alive. If you want a bright yellow fish (though more comic than the angel), consider a male yellow watchman, who will dig a hole, lurk by it and bluster at passers-by, but hurt no one. SOmeone may think of another one, but my own experience with dottybacks was not good: ask around on that one.
 
Mine is a 75gal mixed reef with a 20gal sump and an 8gal sump looking for peaceful fish

Ocellaris clown fish

Royal Gramma

Yellow prawn goby / snapping shrimp (are these shrimp safe?)

Blue Reef Chromis

Ember Blenny

Fire fish exquisite

Ochrestriped Cradinalfish or Pajama Cardinalfish

Flash Wrasse Mc Cosker's

Am I able to have a clown goby as well?
 
I have heard people say the orchid dottyback is much more peaceful than the purple dottyback. I have never had one in the past, so I can't say from personal experience. My wife liked the idea of having as many colors represented by the fish as possible, and I do prefer the all purple dottybacks to royal grammas.

What do you think of this stocking list for a 40 breeder (in order of adding):
1. Yellow watchman goby (+ pistol shrimp)
2. Carpenter's flasher wrasse
3. Green clown goby
4. Ocelaris clown (maybe a pair?)
5. Orchid dotty back

I don't want a large bioload, as I tend to be more interested in inverts like coral. However, my wife and daughter are more excited about the fish, and I am trying to oblige.

Thoughts?

EDIT: This is the smallest reef tank I have ever had (55, 75, and 120 in the past), so I am not very sure what is considered a low bioload. I have a 20g sump with a reef octopus 110 skimmer.
 
I have a 36g. You're suggesting I get corals and inverts before fish? I always thought it was always the other way around to give the tank time to mature before adding any corals? Also I don't understand adding cuc before anything in a new tank when there isn't anything to really clean up yet? Sorry for what might be stupid questions but I'm new to the saltwater world and like to be as informed as possible
 
Mine is a 75gal mixed reef with a 20gal sump and an 8gal sump looking for peaceful fish

Ocellaris clown fish

Royal Gramma

Yellow prawn goby / snapping shrimp (are these shrimp safe?)

Blue Reef Chromis

Ember Blenny

Fire fish exquisite

Ochrestriped Cradinalfish or Pajama Cardinalfish

Flash Wrasse Mc Cosker's

Am I able to have a clown goby as well?

That looks good, you should be able to get the clown goby.. Be sure to have ample rockwork and caves! Be sure to QT heavily as well, I would cut the chromis, as the risk for uronema is just too scary..

I would also cut the ember blenny, they are usually expensive (upwards of 100$ and only show the super cool red stripes when they are stressed..

Look into a fairy wrasse instead of the chromis and the blenny..
 
I have a captive bred orchid dottyback and he is quite a good neighbor to a clown pair and pajama cardinals pair (all captive bred tank). However, knowing the potential aggressiveness of the species, I added the dottyback months after the others and he was quite young. I think that helped him to adjust to the community.

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I have a captive bred orchid dottyback and he is quite a good neighbor to a clown pair and pajama cardinals pair (all captive bred tank). However, knowing the potential aggressiveness of the species, I added the dottyback months after the others and he was quite young. I think that helped him to adjust to the community.

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Yah, my plan was to add the orchid dottyback last. And I like to get captive bred whenever possible, so I was planning on that for the orchid. Good to know!
 
Not sure we are talking about the same Blenny. This one goes for $36 to $54. Mostly red / orange with white spots.
 
Royal gramma is a neat fish for a 20-30 gallon tank as well.

And another thread that should be a sticky. However, I think 125 should be a major milestone. As per LA, many fish options open up at that point. My next tank will be a FOWLR around 125 for that reason.

+1 I'd planned on a 90 until I saw all the options available with a 120.

I have a 36g. You're suggesting I get corals and inverts before fish? I always thought it was always the other way around to give the tank time to mature before adding any corals? Also I don't understand adding cuc before anything in a new tank when there isn't anything to really clean up yet? Sorry for what might be stupid questions but I'm new to the saltwater world and like to be as informed as possible

I started with corals about 6 weeks before the 1st fish. There would be no wrong way to do it though. Addition of the CUC for me was in stages. A couple weeks after adding (real) live rock, I started with a handful of small cerith snails & 10 or so margaritas/nerites. Every month or so, some more would get added & maybe 3 or 4 turbos as well. Algae will start soon enough to keep them fed. There is no wrong way, that's just the way I did it.
 
Cindy K, cautions on the dottyback (low cunning and an ambush predator behavior, real hard to catch) ---you might look at a royal gramma to give you the color without the temperament. And on the lemonpeel angel: fragile, hard to keep alive. If you want a bright yellow fish (though more comic than the angel), consider a male yellow watchman, who will dig a hole, lurk by it and bluster at passers-by, but hurt no one. SOmeone may think of another one, but my own experience with dottybacks was not good: ask around on that one.

Read some more, you are right, out go the dottybacks. Sad about the lemonpeel angel, do you think any of the other pygmy angels would be more hardy? I like the Flameback also, but their care seems pretty similar. Tempted to just go for a yellow tang but I wouldn't want it to run out of room in a 75 gal tank, that seems to be the minimum recommended size. I'd rather have breathing room. Maybe the yellow watchman or a yellow coris wrasse....hmmmm.

Thanks for the thoughts, appreciate the input very much!! :fish1:
 
I started with corals about 6 weeks before the 1st fish. There would be no wrong way to do it though. Addition of the CUC for me was in stages. A couple weeks after adding (real) live rock, I started with a handful of small cerith snails & 10 or so margaritas/nerites. Every month or so, some more would get added & maybe 3 or 4 turbos as well. Algae will start soon enough to keep them fed. There is no wrong way, that's just the way I did it.

I only have dry rock (reefsaver from BRS) which had nothing live in it. I cured it anyway for a couple of weeks and had no phosphate readings at all and nothing crawling around or growing. The only think live in my tank is the bacteria. I'm sure algae will pop up at some point, but wouldn't a CUC starve in my tank?

Would zoanthids be a good first addition?
 
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