Best Quarintine tank for...

[Jfannin]

Ok I just picked up a multicolor angle and want to not kill another fish trying to quarantine it. So I have 3 chouses

Dont Quarintine ( never lost a fish that way FYI)

Quarintine in a 24x12x12

Or probably the one you all will pick a 40g breeder 1/2 filled. Only thing is the 40g breezed is ment to be my new sump for my 120g that I was about to start adding deviders. FYI the 120g is up and running with a temp sump that is working OK.

Know I do also have a 20g long. But it will need to be cleaned alot. Because it use to be the sump for my 40g breeder. I could place the angle in the 40g or 24x12x12 untill the 20g is clean maybe.

Let me know your thoughts.

Thx

 

[Jfannin]

Well I just decided to stick with the 24x12x12 like I normaly use. The fish looks like he is ok. I got him eating a little already.

I took frozen reef plankton cubes and strained them whith a papertow. Then dryer it in fresh paper tows and made disk with it and freeze dryer it into sheet. Somthing I've done for a while to reduce all the waist. So I'm only left with 100% alctual plankton. He loved it.

Somthing my DT fish have always loved as well.

I just wish I had some spare good Live rock but I don't.

 

[sandwi54]

Good idea to QT. You can QT any fish in any reasonably sized tank, as long as the water parameter can be maintained. You don't want any live rocks or live sand in the QT. Just use HOB filter, heater, powerhead, and some PVC fittings for fish to hide in.

 

[MrTuskfish]

Good choice. You can't kill a fish in a basic QT. It is the safest and easiest way to acclimate any fish. Fish don't care if you have LR or PVC fittings, plastic plants , or whatever.

 

[Jfannin]

Thx for the positive. I had great success with all my fish in the past and then I started trying to Quarintine and it's not went well since and I really don't like to loose fish and I'm really loving this new Tricolor. Pretty fish, kinda shy though. Just hope my potter don't become a jerk.

 

[Jfannin]

Btw any advice is always welcome.

I did add a Ammonia indicator today. Was shipped via Slow lol. But it's indicating < .2 so that's good.

Think I might have posted Tricolor earlyer. It a multi not tri.
So far the multicolor is loving the Reef Plankton and I noticed he snatched up a peace or two of Formula One Pelletes today. So that's good as well.

 

[poorguy]

Quarantine is a must, in my opinion. Lost a few expensive fishes due to QT not set up yet. Lesson learned

 

[Jfannin]

I'm doing my QT with the presoaked seeded filter spong from my sump. Ive got like 3 sponges in my sump. So that way I can set when ever. Plus Im not able to keep a QT up and running 24/7 at the moment. But soon should be able to. I might just keep doing it with the seeded sponges though because it's simple and I'm asumming cheeper them a 24/7 running QT setup.

 

[mattsilvester]

I'm doing my QT with the presoaked seeded filter spong from my sump. Ive got like 3 sponges in my sump. So that way I can set when ever. Plus Im not able to keep a QT up and running 24/7 at the moment. But soon should be able to. I might just keep doing it with the seeded sponges though because it's simple and I'm asumming cheeper them a 24/7 running QT setup.

In my opinion, a q-tine tank works best if it is in a location where the fish will become acustomed to looking back at you through a glass box. Often, folks (including myself) put a q-tine tank in a really quiet dark corner of the house; this is great at first but then whenever you go near the tank it is such a shock to see a human that they flee in terror..... which makes it stressful for the fish, and all the more difficult for you to try and observe them for signs of illness, damage, or feeding behaviours.

So, I would recommend a quite corner where the fish will see you passing at a distance and gradually over the course of a month get used to you. If this is not possible for whatever reason, then anywhere will do.

Having a tank running 24/7 is, in my view, and unecessary luxury unless you have alot of new fish over a long period (coz it should be cleaned after each fish anyway). Better in my view to have some sponges on the go, as you already have - PVC fittings etc. hung in a net in your sump of refugium so it can get colonised with bacteria and films is a goot idea too.

 

[Jfannin]

Cool. I actully have my Quarintine about 5 feet from om DT. So the fish see my alot, it's easy to feed them and they are getting light from my DT. Yet they are not to close that they don't have a stress free tank.

Somim wanted to see what you all thought. I've been reading on the Qaurintine process and medicating/Tx process for a long time know and it hasn't went well in the past. So I've changed my process some. Before it was what I belive could be called the Treat to late process so know I'm trying to be somewhat proactive yet. It over reactive.

My Plan: Angles and all others

1: pick healthy fish up from LFS and place him in QT tank with water matching my DT.

2: Get him eating anything and inspect him closely several times a day and monitor his behavior.

3: once eating and and as long as no illness is spotted treat with PraziPro for 3 days and then major WC

4: one week later if all is well treat with PraziPro again for 3 days. After 3 days major WC.

5: at this point I would assume if the fish had anything alse it would be showing and I would provide with treating that. Such as Ich or Velvet.

6: So two weeks after any Meds or Treatment place fish in DT if it looks well.

Major question after reading alot of good long write ups I'm still not sure the best way/meds to treat Angles with other then Prazipro. I know Hypo is ok for Ich but I'm not sure on the Velvet. Also what brand of antibiotic I should have on hand. Pretty much using this as a referance http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1994597

What's your thoughts on the process. Any adjustments and major changes?

 

[Jfannin]

Oh btw I was wondering what you all thought about the Fresh Water Dip?
Was thinking about this without the Metholine Blue or is it better with it? http://www.reefland.com/forum/marin...tment/18887-freshwater-dip-marine-fishes.html

Also wondered if it would be an even better idea to do a Freshwater bath between the two PraziPro treatments Instead of before. Then before placing the fish (Angle) back into the QT tank, replace all the water and clean all the PVC in the QT as well as replace the small seeded slung filter with a new seeded filter?

 

[mattsilvester]

Cool. I actully have my Quarintine about 5 feet from om DT. So the fish see my alot, it's easy to feed them and they are getting light from my DT. Yet they are not to close that they don't have a stress free tank.

Somim wanted to see what you all thought. I've been reading on the Qaurintine process and medicating/Tx process for a long time know and it hasn't went well in the past. So I've changed my process some. Before it was what I belive could be called the Treat to late process so know I'm trying to be somewhat proactive yet. It over reactive.

My Plan: Angles and all others

1: pick healthy fish up from LFS and place him in QT tank with water matching my DT.

2: Get him eating anything and inspect him closely several times a day and monitor his behavior.

3: once eating and and as long as no illness is spotted treat with PraziPro for 3 days and then major WC

4: one week later if all is well treat with PraziPro again for 3 days. After 3 days major WC.

5: at this point I would assume if the fish had anything alse it would be showing and I would provide with treating that. Such as Ich or Velvet.

6: So two weeks after any Meds or Treatment place fish in DT if it looks well.

Major question after reading alot of good long write ups I'm still not sure the best way/meds to treat Angles with other then Prazipro. I know Hypo is ok for Ich but I'm not sure on the Velvet. Also what brand of antibiotic I should have on hand. Pretty much using this as a referance http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1994597

What's your thoughts on the process. Any adjustments and major changes?

In my opinion, you can do "too much". Especially with angels, tangs, and butterflies. I would really be much more inclined to just put them in the q-tine then wait the eternity of 4 weeks. IF they show signs of disease, THEN treat. There has been some studies and theories put forward that treating angels and tangs, particularly acanthuras tangs, can lead to the death of all the bacteria in their lower gut which in turn makes it hard for them to digest and absorb the necessary nutrients from their food stuffs - later leading to HLLE and other nutritional related maladies. Hypo is a long and drawn out process, if followed correctly. There is no short cuts with hypo, nor any gaurantees.

Put your new fish in the q-tine tank, then just wait and see. Invest your time and effort in managing the water quality with frequent water changes, careful regular feeding, and patient close observation.

I would be inclined to run s.g. a bit lower than your display tank - at say 1.020 o 1.021. Then, if you have to treat with copper, you will find it easier to maintain higher oxygen levels, which will help with the pH too. Adjust you tank to the level over a day or two though. Suggest filling your q-tine with water from your display, along with the mture sponge filter, then doing a series of small water changes over a day or two to get it down (depending on what your DT is at). Then in the few days before you introduce the fish to your DT, do a series of water changes to get the s.g. back up...... in the interim if you do need to tret, then all bets are off.

 

[Jfannin]

Ok that's sounds good.

The only thing I have really noticed with the fish other then looking healthy and breathing good is that he is pretty much staying in a PCV T fitting most all the time and coming out only to feed.

 

[Jfannin]

What about snails? Do you QT them any at all. What made me ask that is take Ich for instance. You buy snails from the LFS and their are fish in the same tank as the snails. Say the fish has Ich and it falls from the fish to the surrounding SB and LR. Couldn't it also cling onto the snails shell? If so then what should I do to snails?

 

[mattsilvester]

What about snails? Do you QT them any at all. What made me ask that is take Ich for instance. You buy snails from the LFS and their are fish in the same tank as the snails. Say the fish has Ich and it falls from the fish to the surrounding SB and LR. Couldn't it also cling onto the snails shell? If so then what should I do to snails?

If he's feeding, then don't worry.

 

[Jfannin]

Cool cool. Yah his eating kinda good. I did notice just a few minuets ago (8pm) he actully started to come out of the T peace PVC alittle and was checking out the rest of the tank some. So thats really cool

 

[Jfannin]

Sorry for the lack of updates
Well figured I'd update you all for some positive encouragement. My Muticolor dwarf Angle made it through Quarintine quite well and I'm so glad. Such a beuttyfull fish. I then egg crated him in my DT for 3 days and know he is doing very well with the potters angle. They have been together since last night after lights out. Just after the removal of the egg crate I found it odd to not see that the Potters Angle didn't even pay any mind toards the Muticolor Angle and their is a absolutely zero aggression still today. So I belive all is well. They are already swimming with each other as friends

A side notes. With the two know together it is very clear that the potter is the much larger of the two fish. He was also the abstablashed fish. So don't know if that helped any or not.

Also NO coral nipping noted at this time. So we'll see

So as always thanks for everyone's advice and encouragement. It looks to have payed off very well. Gota love RC

 

[mattsilvester]

Sorry for the lack of updates
Well figured I'd update you all for some positive encouragement. My Muticolor dwarf Angle made it through Quarintine quite well and I'm so glad. Such a beuttyfull fish. I then egg crated him in my DT for 3 days and know he is doing very well with the potters angle. They have been together since last night after lights out. Just after the removal of the egg crate I found it odd to not see that the Potters Angle didn't even pay any mind toards the Muticolor Angle and their is a absolutely zero aggression still today. So I belive all is well. They are already swimming with each other as friends

A side notes. With the two know together it is very clear that the potter is the much larger of the two fish. He was also the abstablashed fish. So don't know if that helped any or not.

Also NO coral nipping noted at this time. So we'll see

So as always thanks for everyone's advice and encouragement. It looks to have payed off very well. Gota love RC

Glad it worked out well for you...... and yes, RC is a great resource. There are a few cranks, a few know-it-all's, but once you get the hang of weeding them out, the grass-roots advice and wisdon of the crowd is pretty reliable.

 

[Triton_Z]

RC is a great resource. There are a few cranks, a few know-it-all's, but once you get the hang of weeding them out, the grass-roots advice and wisdon of the crowd is pretty reliable.

Well said and so very true.