Best substrate(s) for macroalgae tank?

Gyr

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I just transfered my reef to a bigger tank, and I am thinking of converting my old 55 gal tank into a macroalgae tank. I don't know much about macroalgae set ups and plan to do a lot of reading over the next few weeks before I set up the tank, but what are good substrates to use?
Thanks,
Kurt
 
What kind of macro did you have in mind? Some macro does better off on rock actually. For example, kelp here in California has a holdfast that grips onto rock; it cant grow very well in sandy areas because that holdfast cant grip very well in the sand (not that you would ever have giant California kelp in your tank, but I'm just making the point ;) ). Then, on the other hand, you have stuff like caulerpa that can do fine in sand. So substrate issues will depend upon your intended species of macro.
 
Octoshark, I haven't even decided what species macroalgae I want, yet and I know that makes substrate choice pretty tough. I was trying to decide if I wanted to clean and keep the old gravel from the tank I just tore down, or throw it out and go with a different type of substrate (sand).
I'll just rinse the old gravel really well and leave it in the wheelbarrow I dumped it into until I do some more research/decide what type of macro aglae to go with.
 
Do a couple inches of miracle mud and then sand on top of that for a few inches. Most seagrass requires at least a 6 inch sand bed
 
Macroalgae and seagrass are not the same. Macroalgae, which is being discussed, does not need a deep sand bed.
 
I tried the following so far, I got rid of the initial Caulerpa species, though, because I got tired of constantly having to pluck/remove (my tank is small).

C. taxifolia and C. prolifera grew well with their roots on the sand (Ocean Direct Live Sand, rather fine). C. prolifera has that nice, waving, seagrass-like look you might go for :-)
C. brachypus was a PITA. Not only did it grow on/over absolutely everything (sand, rocks, whatever it could grip with its extremely fast-growing runners), but also it constantly shed small parts/leaves?, which either took hold in other parts of the tank, or clogged my Koralia pump (I had to clean the pump sieve every 2 days!!!)

A recommended algae because it does not go sexual like Caulerpa, and because it does not attach to anything, is Chaetomorpha. Little critters like Gammarids etc. absolutely love this algae, and usually remain there when not checking the sand/rocks for food.

What I like best are 2 species of red macro algae I was not told the names of, but they do not attach to anything either, so they do not become a pest.
They do well when being gently shoved into holes in the rock with the lowest part of their stems.
When I tried clamping a bunch of that algae down on the sand floor (weighing the lowest part of the stem down with a stone), that bunch died. So I would not recommend trying that.

Those were just a hobbyist´s experiences. For scientific background, please stick to Octoshark´s advice :-)
 
Then, on the other hand, you have stuff like caulerpa that can do fine in sand. So substrate issues will depend upon your intended species of macro.

I didnt notice when I first posted this, but I just saw you live in California. Caulerpa is illegal in California, so you will most likely not be able to have any shipped.

So that is something else to think about as well.
 
Ouch, good point. I completely forgot that.
If you live in an area where the waste water goes into the sea somewhere close, you will want to be careful about what you put down the drain - I read about the Caulerpa/California issue elsewhere.

I live in the middle of the continent and don´t have to worry about it. Saltwater species would not be happy in my area. Excess algae/aquarium plants go onto my compost pile anyway, not down the drain.
 
Yeah, its a bummer about the Caulerpa in California (some of that stuff is cool looking). I'm sure I'll be able to come up with several other good choices for macroalgae and I'll just hold off on getting the substrate till I've done my research.
Thanks for the advice, everyone.
Kurt.
 
you can have cool stuff thats not calurpa, alot of the reds purples and calcified algae is really cool, as far as muds go, you can do miracle mud or mud from florida. bamboo dynasty on ebay has some awesome mud, i mixed it with crushed oyster shell from a feed store and covered it with some aragonite for my mangrove grass bed, my macro tank just has some aragonite

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Nice scubabum!

Yea there are many other nice macros besides caulerpa. There are a lot of nice reds such as botryocladia, haliptilon, halymenia, etc
 
I didnt notice when I first posted this, but I just saw you live in California. Caulerpa is illegal in California, so you will most likely not be able to have any shipped.

So that is something else to think about as well.

No, not all, just 9 species are listed.

http://www.sccat.net/#federal-state-and-local-laws-1e86c6

C prolifera, serrulata etc are fine and somewhat common here.
I think there could do the same thing however. But they are not banned.

Hard to make the call about what should and should not be listed.
Might do well in some places, but not be an issue here, but if you wait and see, then it's too late to eradicate, you miss that chance.



Regards,
Tom Barr
 
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