Best waty to acclimate snail...dry method

ralphie16

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I read on this board sometime last year how to acclimate snails so that there is almsot a 100% survival rate. I think they dried the snails for about 10 minutes and then let them find the water by themselves. Is this correct or at least some what on the right track?
 
Always worked for me . . . . they close themselves into their shell, and come out when they are ready.
 
so then how do you stick them to the glass above the waterline if they are closed up? after they dry, where do you put them so they can find the water themselves?
 
Um... what kind of snails are you buying that die on you? I've never acclimated a snail in my life. I use the "three point method" of snail acclimation. That's where you pull out the snail, yell "Jordan at the buzzer!" and shoot that snail into the tank. Please remember to make the "nothing but net" hand motion after he hits the water.

S !
 
I don't know if it's necessary to dry them out, but I have had good success alowing them to adhere to the glass near the water line. This allows for a slower acclimation to the water as they go deeper.

Nothing but Net??:eek1:
 
lol @ Python. I used a piece of glass slightly angled into the water. That way, if they were closed up, they would still stay on the glass.
 
I always just set them on my mag float above the water line. when they are ready, they ease themselves into the water.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9297429#post9297429 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Python73
Um... what kind of snails are you buying that die on you? I've never acclimated a snail in my life. I use the "three point method" of snail acclimation. That's where you pull out the snail, yell "Jordan at the buzzer!" and shoot that snail into the tank. Please remember to make the "nothing but net" hand motion after he hits the water.

S !

yep works for me everytime. but they dont like hiting the rim. but look at it this way the crabs get food.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9297429#post9297429 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Python73
Um... what kind of snails are you buying that die on you? I've never acclimated a snail in my life. I use the "three point method" of snail acclimation. That's where you pull out the snail, yell "Jordan at the buzzer!" and shoot that snail into the tank. Please remember to make the "nothing but net" hand motion after he hits the water.

S !

wow, all i can say is thats horrible. why would you acclimate your fish and not snails? snails are even more sensitive to drastic water changes then most fish too. is it because they are so inexpensive? thats the only thing i can think of, but jeez man, take care of your animals will ya?
 
Dr. Ron turned me on to the dry method. i was loosing astraea snails soon after acclimation. before i would float the bag, then add some tank water, and repeat for about 30 min. he suggest to put them in a bowl, or something for about 15 min., then place them above the water line. they will come out own their own. then they grab the glass. some will be in the water in no time, some take a few hours. but i have not lost a snail since doing this method. at least not due to acclamation!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9297429#post9297429 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Python73
Um... what kind of snails are you buying that die on you? I've never acclimated a snail in my life. I use the "three point method" of snail acclimation. That's where you pull out the snail, yell "Jordan at the buzzer!" and shoot that snail into the tank. Please remember to make the "nothing but net" hand motion after he hits the water.

S !

THAT IS COMPLETELY WRONG!!!

It's Reggie for 3 BOOM BABY!!!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9297429#post9297429 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Python73
Um... what kind of snails are you buying that die on you? I've never acclimated a snail in my life. I use the "three point method" of snail acclimation. That's where you pull out the snail, yell "Jordan at the buzzer!" and shoot that snail into the tank. Please remember to make the "nothing but net" hand motion after he hits the water.

S !

:lmao:

I've never heard of the dry method.
 
Okay, let me make a retraction. I'm the worst BB player ever. So I don't three point my snails, mostly becuase of the term "doink." But my point is still the same. I don't acclimate snails, simply becuase I've never had one die. My reef was up for 3 years or so before I moved, and when I broke it down the same amount of snails I put in came back out.

Keeping in mind I only buy turbo snails. The golf ball looking ones that eat their weight in algae every five minutes. They are not sensitive, and they go from the bag to the tank and start eating.

Hmm. I don't drip acclimate my zoanthids just becuase they have some new ******* name either, that's probably a mistake. :)

Marine creatures are AMAZINGLY hardy. I don't abuse them unnecesarily, but I don't hoover over the bag holding an IV drip and waiting to apply CPR.

YMMV.

S !

Moment of Clarity!! I could SO do a MACNA workshop on "3 point shot acclimation" That would be standing room only.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9298759#post9298759 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ralphie16
wow, all i can say is thats horrible. why would you acclimate your fish and not snails? snails are even more sensitive to drastic water changes then most fish too. is it because they are so inexpensive? thats the only thing i can think of, but jeez man, take care of your animals will ya?

By the way... who said I acclimate my fish? In many cases fish are better off in the tank then spending another 2 hours of fussing in the bag.

Last pair of fish I just bought I DID acclimate though. The store had their salinity at 1.019, and I keep mine closer to 1.024. So I went through the trouble of some acclimation.

You should also consider, that fish in a shallow reef situation are subjected to salinity and temp swings all the time. And I won't even go into the rigors of chain of custody.

Anyway, to each his own reef.

S !
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9299550#post9299550 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Python73
By the way... who said I acclimate my fish? In many cases fish are better off in the tank then spending another 2 hours of fussing in the bag. ...And I won't even go into the rigors of chain of custody.
S !


sorry i assumed you acclimate fish.

what 2 hours of fussing in a plastic bag are you talking about? I immediately put them in a 5 gallon bucket and put a drip line in...takes 2 seconds. there is no fussing with anything and you dont have to stand their with an IV or CPR or anything you said.

and you mention the rigors of chain of custody. thats seems like a silly argument since i would think you would try to reduce stress as early as possible and not acclimating to your tank water seems like a HUGE source of stress.maybe not enough to kill them but then again some fish are hardier then others. plus not all fish are from the shallow reefs like you mentioned, many are from depths over 30 meters that do not get such fluctuations as their shallow reef counterparts. and how about people who order fish and inverts online? even with heatpacks and overnight shipping, the shipping water gets pretty cold so the temp diff will be much more significant then a quick drive to the LFS, ya know what i mean?

just seems silly to me to not put in an hours worth of effort for something that you will enjoy for years (hopefully).
 
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I use the dry method. I don't dry em for ten min though.
Anyhoo, I use my mag float as the staging area for the dive. I put my mag float so that it's just breaking the surface and I put my snails on that. In 5 to ten mins, they acclimate them selves and move on leaving the area for the next bunch.
 
yup,, i just put them right above the water line when i get home. They'll stay there for a bit if they want to. Some go straight in, some wait hours. Never seemed to have a problem with acclimation on snails
 
I'm with python all the way here. I won't beat around the bush here, I don't acclimate anything as long as the salinity is close, if not I will dump half the bag water out and fill what I dumped back into the bag with tank water. I let it sit for maybe 15 mins then pour livestock into net over sink and dump them right in. Have not lost anything yet due to acclimation.

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