Black tang or scopas id please !!!!!!!!!!

[NyReefNoob]

black scopas hybrid

http://www.pacificislandaquatics.com/prestashop/product.php?id_product=311

 

[expyman]

that looks the same as mine lol

 

[freedive43]

You would need to take a better photo before a positive identification could be made. A number of small black tangs have been coming up from CXI over the past few weeks. However, oftentimes black tang/scopas hybrids are mislabeled as true black tangs. If I were you, I would demand my money back on the simple principal of the fish arriving with ick. None if any wholesalers in Hawaii pay for fish that arrive with ick. The hobbyist or pet store shouldn't be expected to pay for poor quality fish either.

 

[thelostrican]

the blue / green line by the dorsal fin comes later . My black was 4" before he started to show it . the fish in the OP to me look like Scopas..

This man speaks the truth

 

[DJPB]

thats a scopas tang, more black tint than normal but definately scopas. a very nice one as well. great algae eaters. anything more than $20 would be robbery. distributers price them $6 , $10 depending on size

 

[auem]

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how do you differentiate it from full scopas and scopas/black hybrid..?

 

[ezerasurfr]

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how do you differentiate it from full scopas and scopas/black hybrid..?

I posted a link on page 1 of this thread, and even made mention of it in this thread - but "black" tangs have a green/white tinted stripe on their dorsal spine. They also have an elongated snout, but hybrid scopas (and other zebrasoma variety tangs) can have this as well. The largest difference is their size, but juveniles of each variety are about the same size.

 

[auem]

i read that..that's why in asked it...it seems that green border appears after it reached certain length...so for 1 or 2" specimen,it seems very difficult to tell which is real black and which one are hybrid...

 

[Pallobi]

scopas tang, cant believe some are actually debating this... you got taken, dont be a chump like they are taking you for, get ahold of these people and get your money back...

 

[freedive43]

A scopas/black tang hybrid will usually have a maze of small blueish lines across it's body. True black tangs are solid black or dark gray at that size. A better picture of your fish is needed before a distinction is made. If you are having a hard time catching it, just net it at night when it is sleeping.

 

[gasman059]

A scopas/black tang hybrid will usually have a maze of small blueish lines across it's body. True black tangs are solid black or dark gray at that size. A better picture of your fish is needed before a distinction is made. If you are having a hard time catching it, just net it at night when it is sleeping.

100% agree

I've had 3 hybrids -- this pic does show exactly .

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[ccampbell57]

I have no idea where everyone is saying that it is a scopas. There is no lines on the body as Rufus is saying. I would be absolutely shocked if Ron sold these as something other than what they are.

This is the same and it is a black tang.

 

[ghstrider]

Chris, yours looks different than the ones the OP put up and has the look of a true black tang. I dont think RT would have done that with any malice at all considering the amount of stock they probably move. They (RT) were probably sent a batch of "black tangs" and sold them as such. Its unfortunate that some may not be full 100% z. rostratums.

 

[lhm nole]

Chris, yours looks different than the ones the OP put up and has the look of a true black tang. I dont think RT would have done that with any malice at all considering the amount of stock they probably move. They (RT) were probably sent a batch of "black tangs" and sold them as such. Its unfortunate that some may not be full 100% z. rostratums.

I would have to agree with you and for the price should be no doubt imo

 

[freedive43]

When the shipments arrive from CXI there are often five or six 1-2" tangs labeled by the exporter as black tangs. In actuality, usually only one or two are true black tangs while the rest are hybrids. Whether or not RT took the time to differentiate between the two before shipping them to a hobbyist, I do not know. I am, however, amazed that the OP and other posters aren't concerned that the fish were sent out covered in ick as the OP stated.

 

[ghstrider]

Freedive, i think people are so used to dealing with ich that its become almost expected. But you cant reverse it when you get the wrong fish. Either way, im a firm believer you should get what you pay for and it should come healthy.

 

[pacislandaqua]

like most hybrids there are many color patterns... some more black, some more scopas. the fish in the OP is a hybrid black x scopas. As tiny juveniles, they are very difficult to distinguish, unless its a true small black, which will be literally all black.

The green/blue sheen on the dorsal fin will be seen at 5"+ only... usually only giant ones will have it in full effect.

 

[copps]

The fish in the original post is indeed a scopas/ rostratum hybrid... still a valuable fish... although better photos would help...

Copps

 

[reefsafe]

Here is a pic of my 2 inch black tang:

 

[ghstrider]

Reefsafe, nice fish! More details please! Is he jet black or does he have any of the scopas striping at all? Blue/green sheen on dorsal yet? Whered u get him?