I'm officially boycotting them. I sometimes went in for some stuff. My coworker bought a green cheek conure. She has had plenty of birds before, I am avian certified at petsmart, and can tell you just about anything from the genus of conures too what part birds use to vocalize. She got the bird home.. and it was active, cuddly and amazing! 3 days later it is dead! She left and came back 4 hours later and he was dead. We went in, the people there never gave us a hatch certificate, which is pretty much mandatory in larger pet stores. I wasn't there when she bought the bird. I went in and requested they give us a hatch certificate. Ive seen the bird at petco 2 months ago. They said the bird was in the store for 10 days. I go over to look at the food, there feeding all there 4 conures large bird food. i.e walnuts, and other large items. The lady says it gets forti diet with pellets, and on the sheet they gave us it said parakeet seed, human food and extra spray millet. I go up and this little ***** comes over, with her headphones hanging out of her shirt, no name tag and she goes oh yeah we know how to take care of them, I know seed isn't good. We give them fruits once a day. Thanks. The water was completely soiled. And the food didn't look like it had been changed in a long time. I am disgusted, and have already written one letter to corporate. This was an amazing bird, and there is no way in 3 days could it have died from her negligence. I know the bird was at the store for over two months, and with the conditions of the animals I saw today, I know they neglected all of the animals. The bird is supposedly going in for an autopsy, but who knows if we will even get the results. I am infuriated at this. My friend was devastated at what happened, and petco does not even apologize.
Boycott petco!!!
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jenn_jeffery
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I assume she doesn't use teflon cookware? She didn't spray anything?
I do feel bad for her, and birds are great at hiding if they're sick or not...keep us updated...
I do feel bad for her, and birds are great at hiding if they're sick or not...keep us updated...
JetCat USA
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did it ever cross your mind that maybe it was something that your friend did during those 3 days??? you yourself said it had been in the store for 2 months and it was obviously healthy when your friend bought it..............................
did it ever cross your mind that maybe it was something that your friend did during those 3 days??? you yourself said it had been in the store for 2 months and it was obviously healthy when your friend bought it..............................
It wasn't near Teflon, I asked her if it had been in the kitchen and so forth. She understands what needs to be done for the birds health. Like I said, she has had cockatiels for her entire life, has had macaws before also. And it wasn't obviously healthy when she bought it! She bought it without even telling me so I could examine it... she wanted to rescue it from that store. I really can't blame her. Yes the bird was active, they can easily hide if they are sick, or are being fed a poor diet, which I did not know until I went into the store. For example, a heart attack? You dont know 3 days before you have a heart attack. You act the same and then it happens.
JetCat USA
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yeah but if i have a heart attack three days from now I'm not gonna boycott where i had dinner tonight.
Well lets see here. A bird has been in a stores care for 2 months minimum. The diet was completely inadequate, all the birds at the store looked depressed. Finches were even out of the cage and no one bothered to put the birds back in the cage. The finches were able to fly out into the store. And the people there had no idea what history this bird had. Which if they don't even know when they get animals in, how can they be properly caring for them. Oh, and 4 different people told us all different information on how old he was, and how long he'd been at the store for. At the store I work for, I work with conures for an hour a day easily, and its obvious what kind of diet they need.
JetCat USA
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my sincerest apologies to you and your friend on your losses, i wasn't trying to roust you up, just commenting that it's not a guarantee that the shop is at fault, it could of well got into something in the 4 hours your friend was out, without an autopsy it's just a guessing game.
Kentanner11
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Thats like my local petsmart with 25 dead fish in the fw system and then 15 the next week. yes I do count! It is frusterating!!
The mom n' pop places are the best because they care for every animal as if it was their own pet!
The mom n' pop places are the best because they care for every animal as if it was their own pet!
Kentanner11
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yes, I cant remember the street its by Hilton east, and homedeot,
if possible could you include these:
1) every month or more they take out all the FW plants out of the plant display, let them sit out for more than an hour, and after taking out all the water, and scrubbing the gravel, put them back in, which can be good because the benni bacteria isnt kept moist from taking out all the water
2) I have seen times when no one was in the fish dep. and kids, with out parents there, are reaching for fish and I tell them to stop because all they are doing is putting all kinds of lotions and soaps into the tanks,
3) They used to ask about your tank, so their not selling fish into a death trap, like they did about 2 years ago, but now a customer comes in and is like I just set up my fish tank and picks out like 10 different fish that are in no way compatable and buys them with their little bottle of chlorine remover!!! With out any questions from an employee,
4) They moved the crickets to right infront of the fish and employees go from fish tank to crickets, and back IMO contaminating the water with all sorts of dust from crickets.
5)This is just me but I HATE their bagging techniques, first they take a normal bag fill it tie it up with rubber bands (which are in most of the tanks, for whatever reasons) then they invert this bag into another one, upside down, then tie the outer bag.
I hate this cause the poor fish is being netted, dumped into a container of water, dumped into a bag, then flipped, and then fipped again to un-bag the fish, (my question whY!)
sorry for the long post, I was going to write them, so i paraphrased for you, thank you for you help!
ps the only person there that know what their talking about is ( I forgot her name) she;s the only blond (hair to neck) that is there, she is great!
if possible could you include these:
1) every month or more they take out all the FW plants out of the plant display, let them sit out for more than an hour, and after taking out all the water, and scrubbing the gravel, put them back in, which can be good because the benni bacteria isnt kept moist from taking out all the water
2) I have seen times when no one was in the fish dep. and kids, with out parents there, are reaching for fish and I tell them to stop because all they are doing is putting all kinds of lotions and soaps into the tanks,
3) They used to ask about your tank, so their not selling fish into a death trap, like they did about 2 years ago, but now a customer comes in and is like I just set up my fish tank and picks out like 10 different fish that are in no way compatable and buys them with their little bottle of chlorine remover!!! With out any questions from an employee,
4) They moved the crickets to right infront of the fish and employees go from fish tank to crickets, and back IMO contaminating the water with all sorts of dust from crickets.
5)This is just me but I HATE their bagging techniques, first they take a normal bag fill it tie it up with rubber bands (which are in most of the tanks, for whatever reasons) then they invert this bag into another one, upside down, then tie the outer bag.
I hate this cause the poor fish is being netted, dumped into a container of water, dumped into a bag, then flipped, and then fipped again to un-bag the fish, (my question whY!)
sorry for the long post, I was going to write them, so i paraphrased for you, thank you for you help!
ps the only person there that know what their talking about is ( I forgot her name) she;s the only blond (hair to neck) that is there, she is great!
rljlll
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This is sir_dudeguy, logged in as rljlll...
So which was it? Did it die in 4 hours, or 3 days???
To my knowledge, Petco does not hand out hatch certificates for the birds. They just have hatch dates on the large birds only, but not an actual certificate.
I'd hate to think about all those poor fish in nature that swim through rough currents in waves caused by natural occurances such as storms or earthquakes... Yet..they've still been around since.... the 7th day or something like that???
So which was it? Did it die in 4 hours, or 3 days???
To my knowledge, Petco does not hand out hatch certificates for the birds. They just have hatch dates on the large birds only, but not an actual certificate.
And you're 100% positive that it wasnt a new bird? Most birds of the same species have very similar markings and it can be pretty difficult to tell one apart from another unless compared side by side.
How would they know what the history was? They're shipped in a cardboard box and they are released into their cages. Each bird does not come with a biography of its whole life from its existence as an embryo up to the present time. They receive the birds and care for and socialize with them till they sell, and nothing more, nothing less.
And the same doesnt apply for Petco as well? Because of one store, you're boycotting hundreds of stores? I could say the same about Petsmart or Walmart. I've seen plenty of crappy Petsmart and Walmart animal care techniques. Yet I dont boycott the whole company for one store.
I'd hate to think about all those poor fish in nature that swim through rough currents in waves caused by natural occurances such as storms or earthquakes... Yet..they've still been around since.... the 7th day or something like that???
Kentanner11
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yes, but Im saying that it probably adds to the overall stress, I know that its not going to kill the fish, Im just saying it doesnt help, cramped in a small volume of water, possibly with other fish, poor water quality, and being dumped around.
My friend went to school and came back 4 hours later and found the bird dead. She had it for 3 days. As far as the history, this is a 400 dollar bird. They should know how long the bird was at the store for. They should know how old it is, and when it has been weaned and so forth. What irritated me, was the fact they HAD all this information. But every associate we talked to told us different information. I finally reqested we get the certificates, and it was born in may. The store had, had the bird a lot longer then the 10 days they said. I know it was the same bird because they all have different names. It was named Milo. I saw Milo for over 2 months there. Petsmart always hands out hatch certificates for anything larger then a cockatiel. And how can you defend the horrible care of the animals? Wrong diet, soiled water? The iguanas at that store are being fed iceberg lettuce.
Zeezorm
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Well You may want to realize the "iguanas who is going to buy them will most likely do the same... You should know that if you really want quality, you don't go to Petsmart or Pet Co for animals, equipment maybe but not animals. You go to a mom and pop shop and get your quality animal. Next time go to Cage World on Broadway and Dobson and get the "well treated bird", that would be their specialty. If you want fish go to AA or Pets Inc. You may find they do the same bagging sometimes.... but then again quality will come with it's price and that may not be you forte and you'll just go back to a cheaper way of life... Petco...
Helfrichs Chic
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I have had lots of birds in my days, and IMO it must have been something in the home. Even if a bird is malnourished it will decline in health, will become listless, drop feathers, and usually become pretty noticeably sick in it last days. If the bird was squawking away, and cuddling like your friend had said then I just cant see it being a nutritional issue. I rescued a Nanday Conure from a 1x1ft cage that the owners fed the bird bacon. Yea I know. I had him for 7 years. Was a great bird. When he died I was working at a vet and had them do an autopsy and found many tumors and bone deficiencies.
I would wager that it was something environmental. Temperature in the house, something startled it, extermination of bugs, Teflon, there are so many issues it could have been. It may have been a genetic issue I guess but my bet is something in the home. So sorry to hear for you loss.
I would wager that it was something environmental. Temperature in the house, something startled it, extermination of bugs, Teflon, there are so many issues it could have been. It may have been a genetic issue I guess but my bet is something in the home. So sorry to hear for you loss.
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