Breathable bags?
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mano
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I use them with seahorses and they are driven from San Diego to LA wholesalers. Work great for that and easier than adding O2. You can use them with newspaper or cardboard, which still allows the bags to breathe. I pack 5 seahorses (2-4 inches) and use about 4 L of water total. For shipping across country etc. it might not be worth it since you have to use more water with these bags.
Christine
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Heterodonut
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I have used the Kordon breather bags. A HUGE advantage in my opinion is that you can FILL the bag with water. Do a ups of fed ex test. Fill a reg. bag third full of water (or whatever you would normally fill) then fill with O2. Tie it up and shake it like it is in a box being tossed around by the shipping folks. Imagine what your fish look like being tossed around in the surf. Now fill a breather bag completely full, put a fish or several in it, and shake it up. I would think the breather bags would be a lot less stressful on the fish. Also, I guy I know had his package delayed (read lost) for weeks. His guppies were a little hungry, but otherwise in great shape in breather bags.
MarinaP
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I had horrible luck with these bags. Two pairs of very large chrysopterus were DOA (shipping from VA to MI, two separate shipments).
My theory is that there is not enough 02 in the cargo area of an airplane, and fish suffocates.
I normally fill plastic bags with 1/3 water and 2/3 O2.
My theory is that there is not enough 02 in the cargo area of an airplane, and fish suffocates.
I normally fill plastic bags with 1/3 water and 2/3 O2.
ediaz
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LOL Marina
The only person i received kordon bags is two posts above, but rotifers, they pack them in peanuts and they can stay there up to 2 days.
I use 9 liters of water from the same tank and the rest oxygen. Don''t overfill the bag like a balloon leave some uninflated. Use two large rubberbands to close the bag, if the temp is below 55 use hand warmers one in each box, if the temp is over 80 use ice packs.I use the styro you see at most LFS when they receive fish and a bag the same size, never had problems with the airlines and or schedules.
Oh the fish will suffer hell, they get tossed kicked dropped you name it make sure you get strong boxes, they even leave the boxes upside down even when it says this side up and live fish.
Ed
The only person i received kordon bags is two posts above, but rotifers, they pack them in peanuts and they can stay there up to 2 days.
I use 9 liters of water from the same tank and the rest oxygen. Don''t overfill the bag like a balloon leave some uninflated. Use two large rubberbands to close the bag, if the temp is below 55 use hand warmers one in each box, if the temp is over 80 use ice packs.I use the styro you see at most LFS when they receive fish and a bag the same size, never had problems with the airlines and or schedules.
Oh the fish will suffer hell, they get tossed kicked dropped you name it make sure you get strong boxes, they even leave the boxes upside down even when it says this side up and live fish.
Ed
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9061650#post9061650 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MarinaP
I used one styrofoam box with peanuts and one cardboard box.
Yes, I sealed both boxes, how else can you ship?
I was just pointing out a drawback to the breathable bags. Your limitted to o2 in the box itself.
One of the wholesalers I used to work for tried extensive studies with these bags. We found them great for shipping shrimp, but anything with a spine usually popped them. o2 never seemed to be the problem for us, but rather ammonia did.
liverock
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I used to use them too, for overseas shipments that were going to be in transit for 4-5 days....had great success with them but as mentioned, they are very prone to leak as they are very thin, and ANYTHING sharp would puncture them, but usually not enough water would leak out and critters made it alive.
When packing the box, use a full size 4mil bag to line the styro, place breathing bags in it, and fill full size bag with o2, rubber band it.... then no worries for days....
Richard TBS:rollface: :rollface: :rollface:
Do you think clownfish would pop them?
Ed, how many fish do you put in a bag? Just one bag per box?
Gresham, it makes sense that ammonia would be a problem with the breathable bags. Since CO2 does not accumulate, the pH would remain stable around 8. Ammonia would accumulate and not be detoxified by lowering pH. I think they recommend using Amquel or ChloramX.
K
Ed, how many fish do you put in a bag? Just one bag per box?
Gresham, it makes sense that ammonia would be a problem with the breathable bags. Since CO2 does not accumulate, the pH would remain stable around 8. Ammonia would accumulate and not be detoxified by lowering pH. I think they recommend using Amquel or ChloramX.
K
Our expirements where for the first leg of the journey (export) so we where trying not to use any extra chemicals that locals would need to buy.
Too bad I didn't have the supply I do now, I'd simply toss some Chloramx at it :lol:
Kordon used the bags quite successfully as well, shipping to Russia even.
Too bad I didn't have the supply I do now, I'd simply toss some Chloramx at it :lol:
Kordon used the bags quite successfully as well, shipping to Russia even.
