Breeding Challenge

[dark_stranger]

Clayton at Reefworks in the UK breeds & sells pairs of Orchid dottyback (Psuedochromis fridmani). Have considered breeding these, but still ramping up the cardinal program .

 

[mwp]

If Bangaii's go on cites you can expect the price to go up dramatically...only real source will be Captive Bred!

Matt

 

[dark_stranger]

have been reading that thread & any level of protection is a start & a foundation to work on.

 

[David M]

Egar, lately everyone has had them. As low as $44.99. SDC, UWW, ERI, MAW, they were everywhere I went last time up. They are still on SDC's list for this week. Good numbers too, most had 50+. On the downside they were quarantined at ERI and about half were dead/ dying. A while back Morgan and I bought 13 of them, lost every one. Hard to get them feeding and there were disease issues. I can dig up the thread for the symptom details.

Matt, buying two is probably pointless. I think you had better be prepared to quarantine, diagnose and treat them if you want to try. If you really want to try I'll get them for you.

 

[chris.hampton]

TMC in the UK have managed a few Gobies - http://www.tmc-ltd.co.uk/hatchery/species-list.asp

 

[clownfish75]

Only prob with blue bar/spot jawfish is they are a very restricted supply (USA only).

I personally think firefish are looking good, you have cheap easily avaliable species like firefish, then a slightly dearer yet easily avaliable decora, then a dear as poison helfrichs.

so if people can be bothered there is an oportuinty to upgrade the species if it becomes easy all of a sudden.

Christian

 

[mwp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8937787#post8937787 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clownfish75
Only prob with blue bar/spot jawfish is they are a very restricted supply (USA only).

All the more reason for breeders to be the ones buyin up the supply (and "cracking" them). Pearlies have been done...MM even browses this forum on occasion and knows what goes into succeeding with them...

Matt

 

[clownfish75]

Ok ok i knwo what you mean more specifically, we cant get them in australia, they are illegal. So therefore if you think it is attainable in the US go for it, but perhaps we need 2 species, or perhasp given a limited supply yellow heads can be put in for the people not prepared to spend the moeny but wan tot be in on it and have a play.

but we need a more global species, such as blennies, gobies, hawkfish, firefish.

Christian

 

[mwp]

FWIW, I stopped by the LFS's tonight and happened across 2 "tiny" longnose hawkfish...maybe 1.5" at best...would've made a perfect pair (if you're in Chicago, have $100 and want to know where to go, PM me )

Blue Dots illegal in Australia? I presume because they could become an introduced exotic? My understanding is that Mexico lifted the export ban and is controlling the numbers released...but that's just my understanding. Currently all the LFS's in the area have them...or more specifically, ONE, and all at ridiculous prices except for my favorite place over in Deerfield.

MP

 

[mwp]

BTW, I would see a "worldwide" breeder's challenge being not necessarily to attempt an entirely new family of fish, but rather to refine a group to the point where information is as ubiquitous as clownfish. Dottybacks, IMHO, are almost there. Bangaii's are (but start breeding them NOW before they get on CITES!).

I would think the following would be excellent candidates:

Synchiropus - the dragonettes. I actually have Synchiropus.com already reserved...will probably actually put something up when I make it past 14 days with the darn larvae!

Centropyge - a tough nut for hobbyists to crack, but commercially been done by 2 separate parties!

Opistognathus - information is already out there, yet they are NOT being done commercially by anyone as far as I can tell.

Apogons - only now starting to show up commercially produced and the information is beyond sparse.

Blennies - they seem like they'd be easy, but are rarely if ever done.

Damsels - come on, we should have them nailed by now!

There are a wide variety. Damsels would be VERY easy for folks to do considering availability and cost!

Matt

 

[FuEl]

Hi Christian, still feel that Lysmata amboinensis is impossible? :lol:

 

[Luis A M]

joint efforts in the forum... proposed that long ago,focusing in one species-group,many people together,would be great.
i voted for damsels.problem is not breeding but raising,this is usually forgotten.

 

["Umm fish?"]

I had a trio of solarensis wrasses but my male died on me before I could see any spawning behaviour. So I'm waiting for one of the females to change and then I'll see what happens. Unfortunately, they are in a reef tank, so the possibility of capturing any spawn might be pretty low, but ....

I'll certainly post any info I get.

 

[mwp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8944436#post8944436 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by "Umm, fish?"
Unfortunately, they are in a reef tank, so the possibility of capturing any spawn might be pretty low, but ....

If the spawn floats...all ya gotta do is figure out when they spawn, then shut down the pumps before they spawn and scoop them from the surface

Matt

 

["Umm fish?"]

Yeah, just gotta beat everything else to 'em.

BTW Matt, I've greatly enjoyed the attempt to follow all of your breeding logs. It's the finding time to go back and read them all from the beginning that I'm having trouble with.