Breeding in a 6-8gal tank

[call-me-the-man]

I am planning to breed two types of fish...

Clown Goby, Green
Neon Goby

I will have two of each 1male and 2females of each specie... Ill also be fraggin rare corals that id like to keep in this tank, the funds from selling the fry and fragging will go towords a bigger tank

Natural filtration with LR and LS, and ill have a hang on the back filter for water movement + power heads so their are no dead spots... Any links to breeding these fish would be appreciated.

 

[mwp]

Where are you going to raise the larvae?

I could more likely see the funds from fragging maybe pay for the ongoing maintenance of the tank, but not necessarily generating enough for a new one. It's just SUCH a small tank!

Matt

 

[call-me-the-man]

i saw going to let the fry stay in the tank.

 

[FishGuttz]

Do you mean 6 8gallon tanks?

 

[Kathy55g]

Conventional wisdom says that the babies will be killed by the current in that tank, if not from being eaten by the adult fish. You need more information on breeding fish in general and breeding gobies in particular. Start reading, that's your first step. You can't do it all in 8 gallons, sorry to say.

 

[mwp]

The only fish I can think of that would even have a SLIM CHANCE at growing up in a conventional tank would be Bangaii Cardinalfish, and you'd need something more like a 20 or 30 gallon to house the pair.

I have to agree with Kathy, highly improbable that ANYTHING fish wise is going to be produced from a 6-8 gallon tank as the entire breeding & rearing operation.

Matt

 

[mwp]

Actually, scratch that. I bet that maybe a small number of one of the smaller clown species could be raised in a breeder net if you upped the tank size to maybe something like a 10 and were very creative in how you designed the filtrations flow to minimize swift currents. You'd still need ROTIFER cultures and phyto etc.

I bet it COULD be done, but it wouldn't be easy!

Matt

 

[ediaz]

Gobies, neon and clowns have been raised in show boxes for years, in a "central system" that might have about 20-30 gal. when you add the total vol. of water. But the larvae must be reared in a separate tank.

I beleive the clown goby at least will spawn in a small tank 5 -10 gal.

I have one clown goby from a spawn laid on the glass that I had to let go who made it to adult size, the tank had a lot of macro and micro algae plus lot of pods I guess he survived on that, he is living in a 40 gal. tank now all by himself, wating for a mate.This is very rare 1 out of 3-400 made it.

Ed

 

[call-me-the-man]

I was looking through the NANO threads, what is the size of a 30gal tank?

 

[David M]

Another thought, water quality. Corals and fish are pretty much on opposite ends of the "feeding spectrum". To induce spawning in most fish you will need to feed heavily several times per day to saturation and then possibly remove uneaten food. This practice will not be appreciated by most coral other than maybe some mushrooms & xenia Also it is much easier to do in a fairly barren tank and very difficult if there is LR & coral present. IOW while I would not say propagating coral and breeding fish are mutually exclusive, it would probably not be very easy to manage, especially in a small tank.

Also the default comment: Breed ocellaris clowns if your goal is to make some money, use that money to (attempt) to breed the gobies JMO based on 4 wasted years breeding the wrong species

 

[mwp]

Xenia, you could grow a fairly large amount of Xenia in a 6 gallon..a Xenia forest with a pair of clownfish...that'd work!

If you're asking about the 24 gallon nano cubes regarding size, roughly 18 X 20 X 20. I keep all my broodstock in 24 gallon cubes, and use 2 tens (yes, finally convinced renee to allow 10 #2 yesterday) for larval rearing. If space becomes an issue (as it did a week ago), you can hang a breeder net in one of these 24 gallons without any problems...it's good for a small batch of clowns (i.e. 8 juvies).

Caulerpa...grow lots of Caulerpa too! Maybe even some Gracilaira. Those macroalgaes will HELP keep the nitrates in check.

A traditional "30 gallon" is 36L, 12W, 16H.

FWIW,

Matt