Breeding safe disease treatment for clown

[Flighty]

Trying any last ditch effort I can to save my female skunk clown that is paired with an onyx perc.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8791302#post8791302

I can't ID the bug yet (help would be greatly apreciated) and hypo doesn't seem to be killing it even in the free swimming stage.

Poor girl is on her way out and I want to do anything I can and keep the male alive too if (when) he comes down with it.
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[MarinaP]

Try hitting her with Cupramine in hypo. You will need copper test kit from the manufacturer of Cupramine and test 2Xdaily.

How low is the salinity and how do you measure it?

 

[Flighty]

Calibrated refractometer with time given for the temp to equalise (it helps to have Randy Holmes-Farley in our home club )

I have been bringing the salinity down over the past two days and it is at 1.010 this morning. I really want an ID on these critters. They are macroscopic and still running around at this salinity. I can't see distinguishing characteristics though so I'm trying to get my hands on a microscope.

 

[Flighty]

Bummer, I lost her. Still need an ID to know how to procede with the male.

 

[MimicTang]

Might be Amyloodium.

try hypo and cleaner gobies. Cleaner shrimp will not survive hypo by cleaner gobies will eat it

 

[Kathy55g]

So sorry to hear of this.

 

[JamisonSmith]

Cindy,

Sorry for your loss.

Jamison

 

[billsreef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8791880#post8791880 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flighty
They are macroscopic and still running around at this salinity.

Are you seeing the parasites move on the fish?

 

[David M]

Fascinating, I read the disease forum thread and saw all the pics, no way that is crypto or oodinium. I've never seen anything like it. How fast did it progress? Any other fish showing any signs? Anything working? At the very first sign of trouble with any other fish I'd send it off asap to a lab, if for no other reason just to know what it is. In the pics it doesn't look anything at all like oodinium IMO. The discrete infection sites do resemble crypto but normally this begins in the gills and you first notice it on the pecs, the average fish would be dead long before it got down the back like that. Please keep us posted on this.

 

[Flighty]

On the fish they did not apear to move. Towards the end I couldn't really tell what I was looking at on her skin because of her scales being so disturbed.

I could send a sample of the parisite or the dead body of the female somewhere if that helps.

 

[billsreef]

How do have the samples of parasites and body preserved? I work in a lab, so I have a microscope handy

 

[MarinaP]

I think that those little white bugs that run around your tank are not the same parasities that are infecting your clown(s).

 

[Flighty]

Just to clarify, the little bugs I am speaking of are not pods, they are something that came out of my clown who was in a sterile hypo container. The only things that went into the container were her, some tank water and a couple new pieces of pvc.

These came off of the sick fish in the morning (corresponding with the daily disapearance of most of the spots on her body.)

There was aproximately a half teaspoon of "bugs" . They were scraped and siphoned out. There was about the same ammount on the bottom of the container the next morning.

I was also siphoning out the very small ammount of detrious and food 4x daily.