Bubble Master Skimmers more info wanted???

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9479533#post9479533 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sjm817
It sits in 7.5" of water, no turbulence near the pumps. Very calm. I have dual drains that come into bubble towers. The sump is a 75G. The skimmer section is 18"x 30" x 12" deep. The skimmer is on a platform to raise it up. I do have a 30G fuge chock full of macro.

The ER skimmer sat in the same spot

any pics?
 
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sjm817


can you post picture for the other side of the sump ?

and where is the water from the fuge drain (is it behind the 2 tower )
 
This was with the ER skimmer. When i ran the ER, I had filter socks. I took them off and replaced with bubble towers when I put the ATI skimmer in. I could not change them without knocking the pumps off the BM skimmer.

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i don't know if you want to do it but if yes try this :


put the skimmer opposite the pump near to the baffles .

if you can put a temporary baffle (put just in 2 point silcon to catch it ) after the 2 tower make the skimmer area more smaller .

the water that drain from the fuge direct to the return pump area
and let it run one week and see if you got better result .

you can try first to change the skimmer position , but i believe after you will add baffle you will get different result you will see it in the color of the skimming .

i find out when i run the skimmer in small area (almost the size of the white acrylic base) i got the darker skimming color and thicker one .

i change back the position because i make all the time test and i don't have a place to work on this side .
 
Not sure I understand what you mean. Turn the skimmer around 180 so the pumps face the baffles? I can do that easily enough. I thought it would be better to have the pumps near the drains. Moving the fuge drain to the return section is not really something I want to do. Why would this matter?

Honestly, My ER skimmer worked very well in this same sump configuration and I dont see why the ATI shouldn't do the same.
 
Ok. I turned the skimmer around 180. I put together a pipe coming off the output to move it farther from the baffles.

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Your water level is much higher in your skimmer then mine. Since the Tee hits the collection cup I cannot raise the stand pipe any higher to bring my water level up. That in my opinion is a very poor design. Why add an adjustable standpipe only to have it top out because it "hits" the collection cup.

Yes so far I agree my needlewheel skimmer outskimmed this skimmer by far. But I will give it the benefit of the doubt to see if it improves over time.
 
I received my BM200 a few days ago. It is still breaking in so I can't judge it yet. My Deltec took one day to kick in, while the BM200 is on day 3 and nothing yet.

Can it be possible that no one "mesh" wheel is the same? Mine did not look very dense [very thin mesh that you can see through]. Conversely, all Deltec tradition needle wheels are almost identical. Hence more consistent performance from skimmer to skimmer.
 
my2girls
It will improve. The way it was explained to me is that the skimmer needs to build up a good bio film to allow the foam to rise.
Mine has improved over the last week but I still am not impressed.. yet.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9481436#post9481436 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by my2girls
I received my BM200 a few days ago. It is still breaking in so I can't judge it yet. My Deltec took one day to kick in, while the BM200 is on day 3 and nothing yet.

Can it be possible that no one "mesh" wheel is the same? Mine did not look very dense [very thin mesh that you can see through]. Conversely, all Deltec tradition needle wheels are almost identical. Hence more consistent performance from skimmer to skimmer.

I would say wait it out, and yes no 2 mesh's are exactly the same. There are variences on thickness, and maybe a titch on radius's, But nothing major.
I know my orp is around 400 Mv all the time now which it would normally be around 320 Mv with my old beckett, Also my po4 is 0.02 steadily now with no po4 removers, Which i always struggled before around 0.07 I feed daily, and added 2 more fish recently a dej tang and a black trigger. Nothing has changed, and they get a good belly full everyday.
 
sjm817,
in my humble opinion, i think you have your skimmer on too high of a platform, i have noticed that if we run our sump level right at the bottom of the white output hole, that we get waaay better performance out of the bm 200/250's.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9482611#post9482611 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by koraltek
sjm817,
in my humble opinion, i think you have your skimmer on too high of a platform, i have noticed that if we run our sump level right at the bottom of the white output hole, that we get waaay better performance out of the bm 200/250's.

Could you measure the depth your talking about?
 
Thanks for the advice. I can certainly try that. I went with the recommended 7" - 8" depth. Will I be able to get the adjustment low enough? I have the wingnut style adjustment.
 
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