Building an SPS Monster- my 1300 gallon SPS display

I don't look through the sps forum much anymore and only click on the alerts from old threads. I am glad today I took a look and found your thread. Your tank and the whole build looks absolutely amazing!

After not dosing kalk for a while and then starting it again to raise ph. Did you actually notice a difference in the tank or growth with the higher ph?

I'm almost positive I did notice a difference... yet I realize it's very hard to say... I've always gotten good growth rates but since kalk they've really gone nuts... thus the time to chop.

Incredible tank !!

If you don't mind me asking, what might be your electric bill?

In the winter it runs about $350 to $400, and in the heat of the summer when our rates go it's about double that. The big draw from my system is the lighting... I use all DC pumps, and my heat pumps almost never turn on as I run my frag tanks and refugium overnight... heating and chilling 2000 gallons of water costs a ridiculous amount, so I'm happy to have found a sweet spot...

The whole story and build is just great, thanks for sharing with us. Out of all the parts of this build to ooh and ahh over I am just in love with the huge school of anthias! As you said, nothing says reef better, just so dang cool. They have got to be amazing to see swimming in and out of the acro branches.

The cool thing is just seeing natural behavior of so many fish like I see when I dive in the wild... so many times in smaller systems fish just swim around running the glass... it's cool to see them in a system where they can choose an area they want to be...
 
Thank you for the pics . It's an amazing big treat for anyone to sit in that 5 star theatre . I hope sometimes you get God Complex seeing what an amazing creation you have created .

May be I have missed but wanna know how do you mai rain flow in this ginormous reef ?

Not really God Complex... but I believe we have a moral obligation to give all of our animals the best shot at thriving that we could...

I have three Ecotech Vectra L1 return pumps... two feed the 1300 and the third feeds the mixed reef, two frag tanks, and refugium. Most of the flow in the 1300 comes form six Vortech MP60s. Each frag tank has three MP40s, and the mixed reef has just two.

John, very beautiful tank and house. I love the large variation of fish in the tank as well. I do however have one question for you and it is; you stated on page 1 "just say no to detritus" and showed the epoxied sand around the rocks. Is all of your sand epoxied or just in the areas surrounding the rocks?

Yes... leaving the sand loose in areas I can get to with a gravel vacuum every few months allows it to always look white and clean... If I had epoxied everything it would be grown over in algae within a few weeks... I also get the help of many sea cucumbers to turn it over and keep the detritus in suspension.

Corey

WOW! I will totally be using your thread as a bargaining tool with my wife! This will make convincing her I need a 220g and fish room easy! LOL

Beautiful set-up!!!

As I said before... it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

Stunning! How do you deal with humidity in the fish room?

It's explained on the first page... I have a 105 pint per day dehumidifier, a dedicated 1 1/2 ton minisplit AC/ heater, and a variable speed exhaust fan in the fish room.

More pics coming this weekend...

Thanks again all,

Copps
 
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John, if I haven't shared enough of my admiration for you and your knowledge and complete focus on details before this thread, let me tell you this has certainly cemented my admiration in stone. You Sir, are the Paul McCartney of the reefing world. Incredible! Thank you John for giving us a glimpse into your world and mind.
 
John, if I haven't shared enough of my admiration for you and your knowledge and complete focus on details before this thread, let me tell you this has certainly cemented my admiration in stone. You Sir, are the Paul McCartney of the reefing world. Incredible! Thank you John for giving us a glimpse into your world and mind.

Couldn't agree more !!!! You are The One True GODFATHER of the reefing world .

Regards,
Abhishek
 
John, if Tom can't carry the salt boxes and or a full 5 gallon bucket of b-ionic, I'll take his place in the spare bedroom. I can carry both! :lol:

Corey
 
Incredible build thread, John! I love all your attention to details and gonzo commitment to the hobby!
 
Copps - I've really enjoyed following your posts over the years. I have a few questions if you don't mind...

It had been a couple years between this thread and your other threads. In the past, you've documented the various rare and unique fish (particularly the angels) that you've over the years. Is there anything "new" (since your other posts) and cool that you've added that you can share?

How much time would you say you spend on your tank(s) per week?

Given your tank is 3 1/2 ft tall, how do you go about doing maintenance at the bottom of the tank, like vacuuming up detritus / gluing new frags / fragging colonies / etc? Do you ever pop a dive mask on and lean half your body into the tank?

That Gigas looks massive. Any idea on its size and weight? How long had the person you acquired from had it?

Thanks,
Geoffrey
 
As a current high school student with the tanks taking over, this is incredibly inspirational. Time to start planning mine!


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John, if I haven't shared enough of my admiration for you and your knowledge and complete focus on details before this thread, let me tell you this has certainly cemented my admiration in stone. You Sir, are the Paul McCartney of the reefing world. Incredible! Thank you John for giving us a glimpse into your world and mind.

Couldn't agree more !!!! You are The One True GODFATHER of the reefing world .

Regards,
Abhishek

Guys, you're making me blush... thanks for the compliments... I haven't posted very much in the last few years, and while I have many friends over often I don't show my systems off very much online... this is my first build thread I believe... :D so it's appreciated... but I must say the true Godfathers and Paul McCartneys of this hobby are many... and were doing this as they say when I was in diapers...

One of the Godfathers is Dr. Bruce Carlson... As one of the organizers of the 2015 MACNA I was the speaker coordinator... to show the level of respect I have for Bruce I chose him as our Saturday night banquet speaker... the biggest speaking gig in the biz... it's tough to sum up Bruce contributions to our hobby... but to sum it up... Bruce started keeping marine tanks in the early 1960s... in the early 1970s he joins the Peace Corps and lived in Fiji... He's shared photos with me of his tanks in Fiji in the early 1970s where he believe it or not had Acropora in them... before I was born... it's just amazing... in the mid 1970s he started working at the Waikiki Aquarium, and after getting his PhD in Ichthyology Bruce became just the sixth or seventh Director of this historic aquarium that's over 110 years old... he spent over 25 years there and pioneered the keeping of corals... was one of the first to "frag" overgrowth of Acropora, and had the first public displays in the United States of the Pacific corals we all know and love... Bruce left the Waikiki Aquarium in 2002 to be one of the designers of the Georgia Aquarium... the owner of Home Depot sat Bruce and few others down at a table... and basically told them that he wanted to gift an aquarium to the city of Atlanta... he asked that they make the best aquarium in the world... and gave them a budget of 200 million dollars... and I thought I was nervous planning my system! They ended up spending 250 million dollars... and as they say... the rest is history...

Bruce is now retired and lives back in Hawaii, where his wife Marj works at the Disney resort and manages their swim through exhibit... I travel with my job to Hawaii regularly, and Bruce, my son and I went through the old aquarium...

Here's a shot of us at one of their outdoor exhibits... Bruce realized that he was having troubly keeping Acropora and other hard corals early on... they had sun, and they had pristine water pulled in from the ocean, but he realized they needed flow... he came up with a device that is now famous and named after him called the Carlson surge device... you could see it on the left... it's basically a giant vat of water that slowly fills... and every ten minutes or flushes like a giant toilet bowl and provides enough flow to grow incredibly large colonies of Acropora... just amazing...
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It's like $9 to get in this aquarium... no Shamu or flipping dolphins... but the exhibits are incredible...
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Check these out... on the left is Tridacna gigas... the next tank has a carpet and magnifica anemone... the third tank is a mixed reef with Acropora... and the fourth tank has a mangroves and a saltwater crocodile... pretty cool huh? Well... this photo was taken in 1980!!!!! Literally... I was in diapers... :D
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Many of their exhibits have inspired me through the years... this is another... I think around 4000 gallons... these are the oldest clams in captivity... Bruce got them in 1982, and while one has passed on recently there is still one alive now...
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As an aside I am a hardcore angelfish guy... in addition to everything else Bruce has done he described the Griffis' angelfish... Apolemichthys griffisi...

Another one of my huge influences who got his start at the Waikiki Aquarium (at age 12) is Rich Pyle... another PhD ichthyologist and amazing aquarist... the world authority on the Pomacanthid family, and a pioneer in deep sea diving... diving a rebreather with Rich is like having a friggin' beer with Sam Adams! Had Rich not just given a banquet talk at MACNA before ours he would have given Bruce a run for his money...
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Crack a beer and read one of Rich's many great works... what a story...
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How about the one who all reef fans look up to... the LIVING LEGEND... the great Dr. Jack Randall... Jack has described more valid reef fish species than any person in history... over 800 now... and has probably dived more than any person in history... Jack is now 93... but shares all of his knowledge so well... Jack can jam his hand into one of his encyclopedia sized books, open the page, and talk for hours about the one or two fish species on that page... in recent years he's had trouble getting around, so instead of me taking him and his wife to dinner... I picked up their choice of takeout and we ate in...
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The list can go on... and this is just on the island of Oahu! These guys are the Godfathers and Paul McCartneys... rock stars and legends, and we as hobbyists owe so much to them... I read about them as a kid, and as you meet them you realize they all share a story that many of us do... we grew up as kids enamored with the oceans and coral reefs...
 
Hey John. Amazing as always. Phenomenal growth and great color!!

Stacie, it's great to hear from you! Your old avatar image of the interrupta from back in the day has brought back memories... any new experience with them? I have a pair now for the past few years, and traveled to Japan a few years ago and dived with friend Koji Wada to see them... if you haven't seen it I published an article on them in Coral a couple of years ago... it's LONG winded, but you are one of the people that would appreciate it.

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John, if Tom can't carry the salt boxes and or a full 5 gallon bucket of b-ionic, I'll take his place in the spare bedroom. I can carry both! :lol:

Corey

I have no problem carrying salt and buckets! I'll even vacuum the floors!

Guys... I had no problems with B-ionic buckets or Reef Crystals boxes... until I started getting the B-ionic buckets filled to top with concentrate... it's like carrying a bucket of cement... and the Reef Crystals boxes look easier to carry when the're not getting dropped off on a pallet with 40 friggin' boxes!:hmm3::lol2:

insanely nice!

Do you run GAC or GFO at all?

I do run GAC... but no GFO... I've been doing what I've been doing in the hobby since before GFO came out... and when it came out I saw so many friends NUKE their tank with too much GFO... even if I were to use it it's not the most cost efficient thing on a 2000 gallon system... and I do not like the looks of pastel colored Acropora... reminds me of one of my trips to Guam right after a major bleaching event... I remember seeing these guys on the dive boat high fiving each other... commenting they'd never seen colors like that on a reef... these were the types of guys that talk about their new fancy BC and all it does... show off their new equipment and talk about the places they've been... yet understand little about the reef... when I grew up skiing these were the guys who would leave the lift tickets from Vail, Sun Valley... etc. like an accordion on their jackets... but couldn't ski for ****... :) I was depressed on that trip as almost all of the islands Acropora had suffered... so... I'm the last person to say my way is the only way that works... there are many ways to keep a great reef and grow coral, but no GFO for me...
 
Copps - I've really enjoyed following your posts over the years. I have a few questions if you don't mind...

It had been a couple years between this thread and your other threads. In the past, you've documented the various rare and unique fish (particularly the angels) that you've over the years. Is there anything "new" (since your other posts) and cool that you've added that you can share?

Yes!!! Believe it or not I'm a hardcore fish guy... that happens to keep corals... I'm not sure what I've shared or not in the reef fishes forum, but all those links are dead thanks to Photo Bucket, so I'll throw a few bones to the fish guys here... most of my rare fish are in my fish only... but here are shots of fish in this system... I hate saying "rare fish"... these are fish that are hard to come by in the hobby and give me the excitement I had when I was a child with more common fish... and as I say if you have to ask if something is rare you don't deserve it! :) Don't get things because they're rare... get them because they excite you!

Of course a bone for the angel guys... starting with one of the most special angels I've ever owned... it's on Lemon Tyk's angelfish poster that many of us have hanging... a Centropyge multiolor/ferrugata hybrid(with perhaps loriculus also in it)...
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Here's a Centropyge resplendens/argi hybrid... this fish has survived many years and is a hybrid between the two smallest species of angels... he's avoided all six of my MP60s and survived the move from my old house... not sure there's a Centropyge resplendens anthing left in the US... if anyone knows let me know...
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Flame/rusty hybrids... I fin clipped these exact fish years ago and sent them to Luiz Rocha, who confirmed daddy was a flame and mommy was a rusty angel... the first genetically confirmed angelfish hybrids according to him at that time...
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The newly described Centropyge cocosensis... from the Cocos-Keeling Islands in the middle of the Indian Ocean... I first got these over ten years ago with my joculator when they were just known as lemonpeels... but for many nerdy reasons we knew they were they're own species and just required time to be looked at...
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A shot from back in the day... many remember my car key shots...
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A shot for the anthias guys... Pseudanthias hawaiiensis... collected by friend Tony Nahacky on the Kona coast of the Big Island... male in front and female in the back...
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For the tang guys... I'm a huge Zebrasoma fan...
Zebrasoma gemmatum... the now much more common gem tang...
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Hybrid Zebrasoma rostratum/scopas tang... a black tang/scopas hybrid... showing the black color and long nose of rostratum and the beautiful lines of scopas...
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A shot for the damsel guys... (hey don't laugh!)... I'm the biggest fan of the genus Chrysiptera that there is and probably have ten species... this guy is Chrysiptera galba... from Chip Boyle's station in the Cook Islands... and a reefmate of the peppermint angel...
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Copps - I've really enjoyed following your posts over the years. I have a few questions if you don't mind...

It had been a couple years between this thread and your other threads. In the past, you've documented the various rare and unique fish (particularly the angels) that you've over the years. Is there anything "new" (since your other posts) and cool that you've added that you can share?

And for the clownfish guys... my pair of leucokranos clowns... had these guys for years... you can see them in my TOTM from 2011 when smaller... they're now HUGE and regularly spawn... a shot of the pair early on in the 1300 when I had just two magnifica...
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A close up shot of those two magnifica... one is the traditional purple base to the left... the other is is a blood red base glowing green with purple tips magnifica...
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And a shot I just took of the magnifica island... since the above photo a few years ago I've added an INCREDIBLE purple magnifica to the island in the foreground... and a blue gigantea... the leucs float back and forth between the two species of anemones... and don't allow any other speceies of clowns in the 1300 gallon... not even small, non threatening species...
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A lower shot showing that purple magnifica... there will always be things that continue to excite me in this hobby...
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How much time would you say you spend on your tank(s) per week?

This is perhaps the hardest question for me to answer... with the way I designed the system most all of the time I spend on it is enjoyable time... time fragging... caring for new fish in QT... gardening underwater... I have a radio in my fish room and just relax there... hanging out with my son who is always with me now when he's home. My water changes require just a few ball valve turns. Many people ask me... "Isn't it a lot of work?"... I answer that what many of us do some consider work... but to us it is fun... look at guys that rebuild classic cars... that's a ton of work to some... but to them it is LIVING LIFE... and for me I've always loved the ocean... I travel to it quite a bit... and unfortunately don't live too close to coral reefs... so I bring the coral reefs to me! :)

Some weeks I spend a half hour a day for the week... with the minimal fish feeding, adding two part to predetermined cup sizes, and filling up topoff water... others I spend an entire weekend in the tank do a major reaquascape... I made a list of things I didn't like doing in the hobby before I built this system... and minimized the time I spend doing it... but of course the greater the square footage of your reef the more you have to do... but I'm a livestock guy and enjoy those things...

Given your tank is 3 1/2 ft tall, how do you go about doing maintenance at the bottom of the tank, like vacuuming up detritus / gluing new frags / fragging colonies / etc? Do you ever pop a dive mask on and lean half your body into the tank?

To gravel vac I have a few different sized "Super Syphons" from Mighty Magnets... and I've gotten very good with tongs when it comes to aquascaping... just about everything I have is from frags, and it's easy to glue a frag down with tongs now... the nice thing is that while my tank is 42" deep most of my sps are up off the floor and I can reach them... without doing the mask and snorkel thing. I've done it all... including getting in the tank... but those days are behind me as it's grown in. To frag the things I can't reach I actually have a crow bar... and different sized bone cutters that allow me to reach.
 
I'll give the Drs. Randall, Carlson and Pyle there own rockstar status, say Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard but you're still McCartney in my book :)
 
John,

You managed to get this dinosaur of a member and long time lurker out posting. I was one of the first few dozen members who joined Reef Central way back.

The hobby and its technology has come a long way and I have seen many monster builds. But I don't think any is backed by your extreme level of commitment. The size of the fish room is bigger than a downtown condo in my neck of the woods... Vancouver, BC.

Simply amazing... Makes me wish I didn't divert my attention to so many different hobbies and gave up reef keeping all together...

If you have a video of your displays showing the behaviour of the fish etc, please share.

I will be following your journey more regularly.

Kindest regards,

Clinton
 
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