Can someone help me save my clam please!

Salty Brother

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For some reason my clam is on the decline, I dont know why too, all params are fine, all other fish and corals are fine. So if you could just help me try to recover it that would be great.
Here is a pic from a month ago when I got it...
clamandanemone002.jpg

A shot from today...
clam.jpg

Can someone help me out, I dont know what happened to it. And yesterday it would react to me touching it, and now it doesnt.
All help greatly appreciated.
Patrick
 
That clam is gone.

Your equipment seems fine. What are your water parameters? To say that they're fine really does not tell us anything. Another thing, have you had your MH since day one of keeping the clam? What I would do different is change the bulb from 20k to 10k for the next time you try it. How large was the clam? was it at least 2-3 inches? Less than 3 inches many people recommend feeding phyto, although James Fatherre is now saying the opposite (I'm not arguing against or in favor of that thought, just repeating what he stated in another post in this forum).

Tell us more info about your tank, the inhabitants, lighting scheme, chemistry, etc. so that we may try to provide you some advice for next time...cause there will be a next time!!!

Omar H
 
ok, thanks, kinda bumbed cause it cost me $60. Oh well. Ok, I have had a 20K mh on the clam since I had it, I drip kalk and add phyto trace and iodine. All params are normal, ph 8.2, nitrates nitrites 0, cal 400 which is a little low. The clam like like 3.5 to 4". I have a bunch of sps, and all are fine, some xeina, seabe anemone, some lps and a plate. My fish are in my signiture.
My pc actincs come on at 10 MH come on at 12:30 Mh off at 8:30, pcs off at 10:30.
What should i do with it now that it is dead?
Here is a shot of my tank from a couple of weeks ago
tank.jpg

Thanks for the help, Im just angry becuase it was a really beautiful clam. And please try to help me out so I can keep more
Patrick
 
Omar: could you provide a little more insight on how this clam went south so fast? From another thread, you mentioned
Also be wary of those that advice that they`ve "had their clams for 2 months and they're perfect". Clams take many months to die from starvation from insufficient light.
Salty Brothers clam died in a month..........

My only observations of what could have gone wrong stem from using using solely a 20k spectrum bulb and having the clam deep in the sandbed. Should have crocea on the rocks. I see some SPS mid-tank which look good, although, I would suggest either supplementing the 20k with a 10k bulb or during the next change out of bulbs swap the 20k for a 14k. You'll still have that nice purple tint, just not as much of it :D Tank looks great btw
 
OK ya, but the thing is, my brother has 2 250W 20k Mh on his 75 and has like 6 clams. And I didnt have the clam in the sand, I had it on a rock that was on the sand so that wasnt the problem. So what can I do next time I but a clam, cuase I think they are really beautiful and want like 4 or 5 in my tank.
Thanks
Oh ya, I do supplement the 20k, with 2 65W pcs
 
Oh ya, 2 more questions.
I dont think it is insuffient light becuase its a 250W Mh over a really short tank
And what should I do with the clam?
 
That clam was gaping, and from what i've seen, gaping is an immediate stress reaction to "something" bothering the clam. First and foremost, I would check for parasites like pyramidal snails. Look at soem previous posts for info about these. I think these are the culprits most of the time. Sometimes rapid water parameters changes can cause it too, like a big jump in salinity, temp, or similar. Gaping clams are hard, if not impossible, to revive, so prognosis is not good.

I agree with Omar, though, that clams that die from light starvation do linger for a while, showing a lot of symptoms, whereas clams suffering from other issues can fail quickly.
 
The thing is, like 4 days ago like 2 hours before the lights went out it started to look bad, its not like it was on a decline before that. And Im planing on getting a 6line just incase i have thoes snails.
 
pick it up and look at the bottom. This is a typical hideout for the snails. Manual removal is going to be far better and quicker than adding a six line.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8312043#post8312043 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Salty Brother
The thing is, like 4 days ago like 2 hours before the lights went out it started to look bad, its not like it was on a decline before that. And Im planing on getting a 6line just incase i have thoes snails.
The clam was on A Decline at your first posted picture.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8315229#post8315229 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Salty Brother
Zoom, how do you know it was on a decline from the first pic? So what did I do wrong, and what should I do with the dead clam?
I don't know what when wrong but the clam was gaping badly at your first picture .
Here is one of my clams you can see the difference.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8315229#post8315229 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Salty Brother
Zoom, how do you know it was on a decline from the first pic? So what did I do wrong, and what should I do with the dead clam?
How old is this tank ?
Is not the tank you set up in July is it ?
If it is there you go you find your answer.
You need to get that dead clam out of your tank .
Try to wait some time before you add any more clams.
 
the tank was set up in july, but was an upgrade, using over year old lr, ls, and i also used water from old tank.
Do i just pitch the clam?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8315453#post8315453 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Salty Brother
the tank was set up in july, but was an upgrade, using over year old lr, ls, and i also used water from old tank.
Do i just pitch the clam?
Yes you can ditch the clam.
You know when i upgrade my son's tank from four years old 40 G tank to 90G, he had hard time with clams and SPS for about six months, we did use the old rock and water but we add about 50 LPS of new cured rock to the tank the tank never had any Ammonia spike so.
I don't know i will wait some more .
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8311624#post8311624 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lagger
Omar: could you provide a little more insight on how this clam went south so fast? From another thread, you mentioned
Salty Brothers clam died in a month..........

My only observations of what could have gone wrong stem from using using solely a 20k spectrum bulb and having the clam deep in the sandbed. Should have crocea on the rocks. I see some SPS mid-tank which look good, although, I would suggest either supplementing the 20k with a 10k bulb or during the next change out of bulbs swap the 20k for a 14k. You'll still have that nice purple tint, just not as much of it :D Tank looks great btw

Lagger,

Just to clear out the point I made in that post, keep in mind that was in reference to keeping clams under PC lighting. It's just that everytime somebody asks about this topic, a lot of people jump in to say that they've had their clams for X months and they're perfect. Unfortunately most of these cases relate to clams being kept in there for 1, 2, 3 months, etc. The thing with clams is that they take a lot of time to die from starvation from light insufficency. They look perfectly fine for months and then die without any apparent cause. Some people have been succesful, most have not. IMO, I would not call it a succes until it's been in the same tank for at least a year. Yeah, that's a long time, but that's my opinion. It's just that I think less time it may be the clam surviving on its accumulated energy or just barely making it until they can no longer do it. Now, over a year, the clam has put some growth into its shell and mantle, and if it can grow, then it's thriving, then it can be called a sucess.

Now as to the cause of Salty's clam death, well it's hard to determine even when you have the tank and animals in front of you. All we can hope is to try as best as we can and with as much knowledge as we have or can get together (which is why we all come to websites like this, right?). Still my guess at it is inclined towards what was said previously about the tank. I wouldn't try a clam in a new tank, even if it was just an upgrade transfer. About the gaping, I'm not so sure. While the inhalent opening is too wide, I would not have called it gaping at that stage. I would like to see the mantle receeding before saying it's gaping.

If the clam went down in less than a month, it could be that it was already ailing at the time of acquisition. Still, I'm inclined towards the new tank being the issue. After all, crocea is the most demanding clam of all.

HTH

Omar :strooper:
 
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