Carbon Dosing & Scrubbers

Crusinjimbo

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What effect does carbon dosing have on the productivity of an ATS? My thought is that it would compliment the ATS or at least not be counter productive if used in moderation. Opinions?
Thanks,
Jimbo:spin2:
 
They will compete for the nutrients in the water - if that becomes an issue or not will depend on the dosage and available nutrients. I see no reason not to try it (slowly), though.
 
My opinion - carbon dosing should compliment your ATS. I'm using both at this time and it appears to be working pretty well.
 
I am able to control nutrients with a skimmer, ATS and GAC. I've no need for carbon dosing. It would seem to me that adding carbon dosing would potentially compete for nitrate. I'm sure it can be done, but personally I'd just build a bigger scrubber.
 
Algae exports NO3 and PO4 nutrients at a near balance rate. You can search on RC for the Redfield Ratio. Bacteria, on the other hand, loves N more than P. That is why vodka dosers normally run lots of GFO.

I had a well designed and sized scrubber on a filter feeder tank that was very very heavily fed and it worked great for years. Then I moved and was out of the hobby for a while. In the interim I decided to move up to an NPS tank and read how hard it was to keep down the nutrients so I lost faith in the scrubber. I started my new tank with the same scrubber and it worked great as I steadily fed more and more. At the same time I researched lots of supplemental methods. Even though everything was working great, I added a new feature.

I built a refugium specifically for bacteria. Then I started dosing vodka. In two weeks, I harvested the algae and it didn't grow back because the nutrient load was too low. My nutrient load remained low for a long time but eventually, the PO4 began to rise.

This is an extreme case but I read around and found a thread where vodka users were also dosing NO3. I bought some poison (stump remover from Lowe's) and started dosing it. Pretty soon my scrubber started growing algae and my PO4 started to come back down.

So "¦you can dose vodka but go very slowly. Don't let it out compete with the scrubber or it will not work at its best.
 
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