Caulerpa ????

have? no, no species are illegal to have.

sell, most (ALL?, gresh want to pipe up?) are because they get all labeled into the "invasive species" catagory.
 
So you are saying that it is OK to have but not to sell??
I found this article but it's only talking about one kind (Caulerpa taxifolia)
http://swr.ucsd.edu/hcd/CAULERPA.htm

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Further Developments:

On July 23, 2001 the City Council unanimously passed an ordinance to ban sale and possession of the genus Caulerpa in the City of San Diego. They plan to implement an outreach program to inform pet shops and the public of the new ordinance.

Under the ban, owning or selling the plant is a misdemeanor subject to a $250 fine. The fine would be excused for those who properly dispose of the plant. One disposal method is to freeze it and throw it into a garbage.
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How old is the article? The quote your shared is dated 2001.

My understanding is that online stores outside of CA cannot ship into California, but didn't hear anything about owning it. There's caulepera in all the LFS that I visit. They don't import it...they just grow it to sell.

My LFS does sell it, so I doubt that's illegal. I just know that stores outside of our state wont' ship it to us.
 
Well that's for the City of San Diego, but the wording is quite strange never the less

Under the ban, owning or selling the plant is a misdemeanor subject to a $250 fine. The fine would be excused for those who properly dispose of the plant.
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So just wait until you get busted then get rid of it?
 
It's illegal to grow, sell, own, have, look at, breath on, etc in all of CA. Get the hint :D It's illegal is all respects, and all are each finable.

Let's say you have it growing in your tank. You want to get rid of some, so you sell it to a LFS> Your guilty of:
1. transporting
2. growing
3. selling

Those are each offenses on thier own.

FWIW, 9 species are illegal, 2 aren't.

YEs, many LFS break the law, as do a ton of aquarists.

California Department of Fish and Game

NEWS RELEASE 01:105 November 29, 2001

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE




Contact: Susan Ellis (916) 653-8983

Bill Paznokas (858) 467-4218


DFG Alerts Aquarium Owners of Dangerous Threat to California Sea Life




The Department of Fish and Game (DFG) wants to alert saltwater aquarium owners that a part of their hobby may present a significant danger to California's marine ecosystems if they ignore a new law that bans the popular algae Caulerpa taxifolia. The variety, one of nine species targeted under a new law, is found in pet supply shops that cater to saltwater aquaria hobbyists.

Legislation in September made it illegal to sell, possess, import, transport, transfer, give away or release alive in the state any of nine species of Caulerpa. Under the law, introduced by State Assemblyman Tom Harman of Huntington Beach, DFG has the authority to confiscate and destroy the marine algae.

Biologists blame Caulerpa for devastating marine ecosystems in the Mediterranean Sea and off the coast of Australia. They said the algae species transformed vast areas of the Mediterranean into watery wastelands.

The other varieties have the potential to spread indiscriminately in the California marine environment, or have appearance similar to Caulerpa taxifolia. They are cupressoides, mexicana, sertulariodes, floridana, ashmeadii, racemosa, verticillata, and scapelliformis.

DFG's Invasive Species Coordinator Susan Ellis said Caulerpa has been found in Agua Hedionda lagoon in San Diego County, and Huntington Harbour in Orange County. State, federal, and local authorities have already committed close to $3 million on eradication of these populations. As with any invasive species, DFG biologists said that complete eradication is expensive and often elusive. A coalition of federal, state, and local agencies, as well as private parties, formed the Southern California Caulerpa Action Team with the purpose of controlling the algae.

"Once the alga is introduced, it multiplies rapidly and blankets the entire bottom, smothering native organisms," Ellis said. "The problems probably occurred when people disposed of the contents of their aquaria by dumping them into these saltwater lagoons. Even a small fragment of the plant can become established and become a new infestation."

Ellis said the DFG hopes to launch a letter campaign directed at marine aquarium wholesalers and pet store retailers about the ban. Caulerpa is often shipped from Indonesia attached to live coral. Still, the public outreach will likely miss some hobbyists as there are more than 180 retailers just in the San Francisco Bay area. That number grows substantially in the Los Angeles and San Diego regions, she said.

Fish and Game wardens have already confiscated a shipment at one retail outlet and investigated one large shipment of the Caulerpa to a wholesale distributor. Violators face a civil penalty of up to $10,000 for each violation.
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http://www.dfg.ca.gov/hcpb/species/nuis_exo/NR_caulerpa_112901.htm

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/hcpb/species/nuis_exo/nuis_exo.shtml
 
FWIW, their aren't 180 LFS's that sell saltwater in the Bay Area, so don't belive all the Dept of Fun and Games tells yah ;)
 
yet it's ok to sell ice plants and bamboo two other plants that can very easily grow out of control. I don't have any Caulerpa *wink wink* but the DFG can bite me!
 
Do a google image search for "grape" caulerpa ;)

You can have any caulerpa sepcies other then:

The other varieties have the potential to spread indiscriminately in the California marine environment, or have appearance similar to Caulerpa taxifolia. They are cupressoides, mexicana, sertulariodes, floridana, ashmeadii, racemosa, verticillata, and scapelliformis.
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FISH AND GAME CODE
SECTION 2300





2300. (a) No person shall sell, possess, import, transport,
transfer, release alive in the state, or give away without
consideration the salt water algae of the Caulerpa species:
taxifolia, cupressoides, mexicana, sertulariodes, floridana,
ashmeadii, racemosa, verticillata, and scapelliformis.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), a person may possess, for
bona fide scientific research, as determined by the department, upon
authorization by the department, the salt water algae of the Caulerpa
species: taxifolia, cupressoides, mexicana, sertulariodes,
floridana, ashmeadii, racemosa, verticillata, and scapelliformis.
(c) In addition to any other penalty provided by law, any person
who violates this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less
than five hundred dollars ($500) and not more than ten thousand
dollars ($10,000) for each violation.
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We removed ALL Caulerpa from our store by the start of this year. It is too much of a risk for me to have/sell/trade in the store. Other stores may decide to carry it, but that is their right to whatever the heck they want. There was a few customers that were pretty ****ed at me that we were not selling it and that we would not carry Caulerpa or order it in for them. Sorry .... too much to lose.

I will be the first one to say that CADFG has some pretty stupid laws, but this one makes PERFECT sence to me. All of us know how easy this algae grows and the various conditions in which it grows.

Just a heads up .... CADFG will be looking for it and are not going to be shy about siting people with Caulerpa.

This is a very serious threat to our coast and that delicate ecosytem. Please be a responsible reef enthusiast.

Thanks

tyler
 
"Grape" is OK to have right??

Tyler,
Do you carry any other cool algae? I'm looking for some nice one but can't find any :( ..
 
No Caulerpa of any species is in the store. Only Gracilaria (Brown, Green and Red), Agar, Ulva, Sargassum, Chaeto and some other interesting algaes are available from time to time. Right now I only have some Sargassum and brown Gracilaria.

The sargassum that we usually get is a sessile form that sinks, my cousin in Miami is going to start sending me floating Sargassum when we set up an "Open Water" tank. Something that I wanted to do for a long time. The water will be in a whirlpool like motion, black bottom high light to mimic the floating Sargassum ecosystem. Loaded with all the interesting Sargassum creatures (Triggers, Filefish, Anglers, Shrimp, Crabs, etc.)

Thats all,

ty
 
This is a very serious threat to our coast and that delicate ecosytem. Please be a responsible reef enthusiast.
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Ironically the continuous housing that's being built in the area and people moving in post FAR greater a threat to our coasts than an caulerpa species but they don't seem to be slowing down on that one bit.... but that's a topic for another board :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7088835#post7088835 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by orientalexpress
yeah Phon,give me your grape,i disposed for u:D


lapsan
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kekeke I don't have any :twitch:
 
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